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Yeah, Right: I am The Greatest Natural Bodybuilder of All Time!

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It never fails. As soon as the topic of natural bodybuilding potential pops up on a forum discussion, it isn’t long before someone claims they have surpassed the greatest bodybuilders of all time. De facto, they are exclaiming to the bodybuilding masses:

I am the the greatest natural bodybuilder of all time!

Pardon the sarcasm, but I have to say this…yeah, right. Mr. Forum Poster, do us a favor. Please snap a picture of yourself and email it to me. I would love to promote you as the new reigning God of natural bodybuilding. But you won’t. Because you know the truth…you look nothing like Reg Park or Steve Reeves. Heck, walking down the street, you’d be lucky enough if someone accidentally pointed you out in a crowd as a bodybuilder.

I’m sorry to ridicule you, Mr. Forum Poster, but you are really bringing this upon yourself. You are revealing your ignorance of bodybuilding, as well as of basic math.

Top tier natural bodybuilders compete at 185-195 pounds, ripped. They carry around a base lean muscle mass of 175-185 pounds. No one, ever – EVER – has exceeded these potentialities without steroids or similar drugs. But you claim to be 225 pounds at 15% body fat?

What’s Going On?

Ok, I agree – it’s time to put aside the sarcasm and ask, what’s going on? Generally, the basic issue behind Mr. Forum Poster’s claims is the reality that he is underestimating his body fat percentage. Period. End of story.

It surely can’t be his scale. Seriously, who can’t read the numbers on a scale? If Mr. Forum Poster couldn’t, he probably wouldn’t know how to operate a computer. So Mr. Forum Poster’s weight is correct. He does weigh 225.

But, Mr. Forum Poster is either misrepresenting his body fat percentage to puff himself up, or he is using some lame and completely inaccurate online body fat percentage calculator. At 225 pounds, Mr. Forum Poster would have to be at 15% body fat or less to stand side my side with Reg Park or Steve Reeves.

Most likely, Mr. Forum Poster’s body fat percentage is 25-30%. I would bet my house, wife and car that he isn’t more then a few percentage points from this range. And quite frankly, is he continues to state that he is under 15% body fat at that weight, he is either lying, ignorant, or taking steroids.

Ask him for pictures. If he does post one, next ask yourself if he looks like Reg Park. Reg was 214 pounds at a height of 6’0″, and had a body fat percentage around 8-10%. Reg Park carried around about 196 pounds of lean muscle mass. Odds are that Mr. Forum Poster isn’t 6 feet tall. Heck, if he’s puffing up his muscle mass, why not go all out and lie about height as well..

So, if Mr. Forum Poster is around 5’10″, and carrying around more lean muscle mass then the greatest natural bodybuilder of all time, we have just discovered the great of all time!

Do you look like Reg Park, Mr. Forum Poster?

6 comments

  1. You also don’t take height into any account. While I agree there is a maximum potential, shorter ripped people will be much lighter than taller. However, I get your point. Many people on the internet claim to be ‘the best’ at everything, it’s lame and it’s really weak.

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  2. Lean body mass at 15% body fat and 8% are not at all equivalent. When a bodybuilder restricts calories to cut body fat, lean body mass also decreases. Not just with the dreaded muscle cannibalism, but also because of reduced glycogen storage, retained water, even having less food in the gut would matter, but all of these things are counted as lean body mass. So your forum poster might honestly have almost 200 lbs of lean body mass at 15% body fat, but by the time he gets down to 8% he’ll be lucky to have 185 lbs of lean body mass. Contrawise, if Steve Reeves had bulked up to 15% body fat, he might have weighed considerably more than 225.

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  3. Hi Nathan,

    We are analyzing lean body mass according to Casey Butt’s studies. Here is an article on the subject:

    http://muscleandbrawn.com/determining-natural-bodybuilding-potential/

    The point I made, and the point I stand by, is that Forum Poster X is claiming to be 225 at 15% body fat, meaning that his lean mass would be 191 pounds…which exceeds the lean body mass (based on a height comparison) of the greatest natural bodybuilders that have ever competed.

    Yes, guys DO lose muscle while cutting. But that does not mean they can exceed natural potential when at a higher bodyfat. It simply doesn’t work that way. I myself train for both powerlifting and bodybuilding. My lean body mass is in the upper 170′s whether I am at 220 or 270. I take regular caliper readings, and am very familiar with my LBM.

    The bigger point is the Forum Poster X is dramatically underestimating his bodyfat percentage.

    Most current natural bodybuilders compete in the 170′s, and some in the 180′s. Very few compete above 190, unless they are freaks like Doug Miller.

    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/natural/athletes/natural-bodybuilders.html

    Forum Poster X is claiming to be bigger than the largest naturals.

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  4. Lean body mass at 15% body fat and 8% are not at all equivalent. When a bodybuilder restricts calories to cut body fat, lean body mass also decreases. Not just with the dreaded muscle cannibalism, but also because of reduced glycogen storage, retained water, even having less food in the gut would matter, but all of these things are counted as lean body mass. So your forum poster might honestly have almost 200 lbs of lean body mass at 15% body fat, but by the time he gets down to 8% he’ll be lucky to have 185 lbs of lean body mass. Contrawise, if Steve Reeves had bulked up to 15% body fat, he might have weighed considerably more than 225.

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    • @ Nathan,

      You said: “Lean body mass at 15% body fat and 8% are not at all equivalent.”

      Of course they’re not. And of course you lose muscle when you lean out. You’re missing the big picture. Natural potential has been studied. The forum poster is claiming to be larger then his potential. You can’t eat yourself up to 40% bodyfat and look like Cutler. You don’t beat your potential just because you carry more fat.

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