Increasing Strength

[Fazc]

Not massively deep, I don't even think my hamstrings were hitting parallel.

[BendtheBar]

I tried frequent good mornings a while back as a method of training the squat, but never went heavy enough to have an impact.

[BendtheBar]

A word on Doyle Kenady's training from 70sBig:

Doyle is no longer living; apparently he died of heart disease. His training consisted of the three big lifts without much assistance work, and his schedule had more rest days than training days.

[Fazc]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

I tried frequent good mornings a while back as a method of training the squat, but never went heavy enough to have an impact.

Heavier is definitely a must, my last session had 280kg at the top.

[mab54]

I was just wondering if the way you guys train (6 days a week) could work for a powerlifter/strongman. How/could you work with events while also training the power lifts?

I was just wondering because I was thinking about giving it a try in April, but strongman is a must for me. I love log pressing and farmers walk to much to give them up.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by mab54

I was just wondering if the way you guys train (6 days a week) could work for a powerlifter/strongman. How/could you work with events while also training the power lifts?

I was just wondering because I was thinking about giving it a try in April, but strongman is a must for me. I love log pressing and farmers walk to much to give them up.

The core principle is overreach and deload and I am certain it could be applied to your situation.

I guess the question I have is this: beyond the squat, bench press and deadlift, which strongman lifts do you practice, and generally how frequently?

[mab54]

Mondays I practice axle c&p, Friday I log press and when I can farmers walk, also I will soon be able to practice with atlas stones.

[Pull14]

Perhaps you can create a template similar to either Fazc or BTB and simply replace one of the main lifts each day with a one of your event lifts. Week 1 heavy singles, doubles, or triples, and week 2 go for some higher reps with a slightly lower weight. Replace pulls with the stone, presses with the log/axel.

That or possibly just work the conventional strength lifts 3-5 days a week and have 1-2 event days.

Like Steve said, with their training its a couple weeks of overreaching followed by a deload. There is a lot that can work with that type of setup... Throw something you think makes sense into a template and just make adjustments, add/remove/move around lifts if something is creating to much or to little stress. It will take some trial and error on your part, as it has with all of us...

[Fazc]

Originally Posted by mab54

Mondays I practice axle c&p, Friday I log press and when I can farmers walk, also I will soon be able to practice with atlas stones.

Well let's see, if we take 3 Pressing days:

Day 1: Axle C&P
Day 2: CGBP
Day 3: Log Press

Day 2: Squat, Stones
Day 4: Front Squat, Partial Deadlifts
Day 6: Bent Row, Squats

Initially something like that would probably work fine. That's a loose template, you could well switch exercises in and out as you see fit.

Traditionally most SM that I know train events on the weekend and do some combination of full body work during the week, such as this:

Day 1: Axle C&P, Squats, Bent Rows
Day 3: CGBP, Front Squats, Partial Deadlifts, Farmers Walk
Day 5: Strict Press/Push Press/Jerk
Day 6: Events - Log, Stones, Walk etc

I'm not much on SM programming but either approach should work, just be sure to do what you can across two weeks to the point where you are fatigued then take a light week. You should come back stronger if you loaded enough.

[mab54]

Interesting template Fazc, only things I don't really care for is only doing partial deadlifts and not benching every week.

I was thinking something like this, but I really have no idea how something like this would work and would be open to all comments/criticism.

Day 1. Deadlifts, Anderson Squats
Day 2. Bench Press, Rows
Day 3. Front Squats, Partial Deadlifts
Day 4. Log C&P, chins?, CGBP
Day 5. Squats, Farmers Walk
Day 6. Axle C&P, Stones, Curl

Thats just an idea I have been throwing around in my head, and thanks to both Pull and Fazc for the help!

Not 100% commited to idea, but would really like to try it. Also one more question what are your thoughts on working up to a heavy 3-5 then a back off set of 10 with just deadlifts. After looking through my journal my best deadlift gains came from high reps.