Your Thoughts on Hardgainers

[glwanabe]

Originally Posted by gaspers04

When found Im sure there will be beams of light, sounds of angelic harps and peace on earth....lol

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

I think your right. lol

What about Viking women in fur bikini's, with hooters of just the right size!
Surely, they will be there as well.

[gaspers04]

Oh, Oh yeah! Im liking where this is going!

[glwanabe]

Originally Posted by gaspers04

Oh, Oh yeah! Im liking where this is going!

[Rich Knapp]

Originally Posted by glwanabe

Hey thats my sister.

[glwanabe]

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

Hey thats my sister.

Outstanding!!

Got any pictures of your Mom?

[glwanabe]

Mom?

[Rich Knapp]

Originally Posted by glwanabe

Mom?

Aunt Terry

[glwanabe]

Whens your next family reunion?
I may have to attend.

[Rich Knapp]

Uncle Buck her husband.


Sunday for real lol

[Off Road]

I'm sitting at home and I'm sick with a miserable cold. So excuse me if I come across as a little blunt but I don't feel like being PC at the moment.

First off, the term "Hardgainer" DOES NOT mean somebody who cannot gain weight. To say that Hardgainers just need to eat more is very short sighted. The term Hardgainer simply means; someone with average genetics and potential for strength and size gains.

You have two sides to this argument and some poor saps (the Hardgainers) stuck in the middle with nowhere to turn. On one side you have lazy people who use the term Hardgainer as an excuse not to work hard and cannot be helped in their current state of mind. On the other side we have most of the guys responding to this post with, "There's no such thing as a Hardgainer and they just need to learn how to eat more. “

There are many reasons that Hardgainers (genetically average) do not gain size and strength quickly. As some have mentioned, they haven’t learned the value of food. But that’s not the only reason because we have skinny-fat Hardgainers as well. To tell a skinny-fat Hardgainer to “eat more” is only going to compound the problem.

The absolute most common reason we have Hardgainers that don’t make progress is because they do not know how to train properly; using fancy splits, machines, no progression scheme, too much volume, etc. We here at MAB do a pretty good job at telling people how they SHOULD be training but refuse to acknowledge why we give the advice we do. And the reason for it is because we know we are dealing with a majority of new lifters that are having difficulties and are most likely genetically average.

A third most important reason for people not gaining strength and size quickly is they have no conditioning. A good conditioning level will help the Hardgainer recover faster between sets and between workouts. They will be all-around healthier with a good conditioning level and their body’s will process food better and recover from intense exercise faster.

On the other hand we have Hardgainers that use too much conditioning and counteract the food they are taking in. The solution for those people is learn to eat food by the truckloads or cut back on some of the conditioning work. At this point they have to decide if running or building muscle is more important to them.

So get off your high horses. We here at MAB know the advice we give new lifters works but we get caught up in these silly debates about Hardgainers. Ask yourselves why we tell new lifters to eat more, get in shape, use compound exercises, and find a progression scheme. Is it because that’s the way Jay Cutler does it? I think not. It’s because they aren’t Jay Cutler that they have to train differently.

Hardgainers do exist and we know how to help them. If you find somebody making excuses for why they can’t gain strength and size, that doesn’t make them a whiney Hardgainer, that makes them a moron.

Sorry for the long post, I just get so tired of this constant battle over a stupid word...