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Old 10-14-2013, 11:11 PM   #1
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Bench Press - 225 pounds
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These are goals. Obviously not everyone can reach them, but I think most can come close if they put in the work and eat enough. I consider these reasonable goals.

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I have a real hard time gaining weight, and in 4 years i went from 120lbs to 135lbs, benching 45lbs to 245lbs, and there is no one even close to my size and weight who can bench that much. Im an exercise science student and according to one of my new text books, pound for pound strength, im in the top 1%.

This article along with almost every other one on this site has a lot of good information but there is always something wrong with them. The authors must be those naturally big but lean guys who think that they worked harder than everyone else to get as big as they are, and anyone smaller must be a slacker.
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Ohh as for my last reply, I was right. Since the author led with, "160 pound 6-pack look" assuming that anyone who weighs 160 or less is just super skinny.

So to the author- I'm 21, 5'5", I weight 135 pounds, I eat well over 3000 calories a day, usually aim for 3500, sometimes hit 4000. My diet is flawless. I do minimal cardio. I max out at 245 on bench, 420 on squats, and 380 on dead lift. I guarantee that over the last 6 years I've worked harder than you in the gym, have had a better diet, used more legal supplements, and know more about exercise and nutrition. Within the next few years expect to see me writing my own articles that will make you and all your little bro science buddies look like fools.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:53 PM   #2
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Well, it is obvious from what I know that the bolded part in the second quote is not true.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:08 AM   #3
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I met those exact, ahem, "targets" in about a year of training. Two of the lifts took less time actually, and the other maybe a full year, or even a tiny bit longer (that being the bitch called bench for me). Guess that's what Starting Strength does for ya. (the bench bit, mainly.)

And to say I'm not exceptional when it comes to any aspect of build, strength, muscle or fitness, in any way really, would be quite the understatement. If anything, starting later in life, as a skeletal sedentary lifelong geek... yeah, maybe a bit of a disadvantage here and there. But whatever.

In addition to which, part of my first complete year of training (about 1.5 years along now) was, well, derping around, to be 100% honest. Then there's the not counting calories, drinking alcohol regularly, etc., etc.

Which is to say, if *I* can do it, then damn: just about anyone can!
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That is the worst kind of fuck head. Some skinny weak college kid, who has achieved nothing in the gym as far as results and hasn't put in the work or the time, thinks they are an expert because they took one semester of exercise science. Kids like this drive me nuts and they are the exact reason I don't post in certain other forums anymore.
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That is the worst kind of fuck head. Some skinny weak college kid, who has achieved nothing in the gym as far as results and hasn't put in the work or the time, thinks they are an expert because they took one semester of exercise science. Kids like this drive me nuts and they are the exact reason I don't post in certain other forums anymore.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:01 AM   #6
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My daughter is 5'5" and only 20 pounds behind him. She's a twig.

I respect his effort, but I'm not going to pretend that skinny looks impressive on a male.

If you can't gain more than 4 pounds a year you're not a hardgainer, you're simply not eating enough.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:04 AM   #7
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Just a note to say it took me considerably longer than that 21 year old to achieve those lifts, and I'm unlikely to ever achieve a 3 X bodyweight squat.

Personally, I think he's made excellent progress strengh-wise.

Also to point out that he hasn't only taken one semester of exercise science. If we take his account at face value, he's also been working out for five years, which is longer than quite a few people on here.

None of which forgives him being as arrogant as sin.

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I like this one better.

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