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Old 10-26-2011, 04:26 PM   #21
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A 345 PC is not that a big deal for a 220 olympic lifter focusing on the 2 lifts, but for the common gym rat like me its a big deal :P
If I hadn't wasted my elbows from 20 years of Weider training perhaps it wouldn't seem so imposing
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:45 PM   #22
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For the lifts I can do, I'm between a high Advanced and a low Elite
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Press-Right at advanced

Bench Press-10lbs from advanced

Squat-middle of intermediate-advanced

Deadlift-advanced

Powerclean- never maxed but probably middle of beginner to intermediate
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:09 PM   #24
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For the lifts I can do, I'm between a high Advanced and a low Elite
would expect nothing less from a pro
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:29 PM   #25
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I was intrigued enough by the press numbers on these tables to plot the "advanced" values for these lifts w.r.t. bodyweight for different exercises. Here's the plot. If the table is to be believed, it looks like lifters with lower bodyweights have an advantage when it comes to weight lifted to bodyweight ratio.



There also seems to be a trend for diminishing returns with increase in bodyweight. Here's a plot showing the %age increase expected for advanced lifters as they move up by one weight class.



Obviously, the absolute numbers dont have much meaning on their own, but I think the general trend that comes out is interesting.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:19 AM   #26
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I think for the most part many of the numbers below elite are relatively "easy" to achieve as long as the lift is prioritized in some way. May take some time, but hitting them shouldn't be questionable. Elite is where the line begins to be drawn.

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I wouldn't say 'easy'! Certainly, the advanced figures are achieveable for most but still, relatively few people get there.
The gap between elite and advanced is striking though!
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A 345 PC is not that a big deal for a 220 olympic lifter focusing on the 2 lifts, but for the common gym rat like me its a big deal :P
No kidding. Comparing elite to elite, many 105kg guys are cleaning higher than 220kg. Even lighter guys in the 77 and 85 and 94kg classes are cleaning up in the 200's. Sure not a 'power' clean but not a lot of weight has to be removed to catch the bar in a half-squat.


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I wouldn't say 'easy'! Certainly, the advanced figures are achieveable for most but still, relatively few people get there.
The gap between elite and advanced is striking though!
I didn't mean easy in the sense of physical and mental strain/effort put into any particular training; one would certainly have to work hard. Achievable/manageable was the message I'm going for. Would take a few years to reach, but it can be reached quickly relative to the whole of a training career. Also keep in mind that I'm referring to those who "train" and not those who merely "workout." And yes, the gap is high, but than again elite wouldn't be "elite" if everyone could do it...

Nice charts ya put up too.

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Is this chart for raw or geared LOL
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Is this chart for raw or geared LOL
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