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Old 09-30-2011, 02:51 PM   #1
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Since I started lifting my dad has become pretty interested in it himself and wants to start.

The problem is about two year ago he hurt his back with two herniated discs, things like the deadlift are fine the only problems he has had so far is getting on and off the bench. He has pretty good squat form but whenever he squats he says that his right quad has a pain and it lasts for a few days after, he also has some problems getting to depth because of the pain.

I had him SS but I'm not sure squating 3 times a week is a good idea. He's not strong enough yet to do dips, chinups ect. and I don't think his back would allow powerclean until it becomes a little stronger.

Any help of suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Since I started lifting my dad has become pretty interested in it himself and wants to start.

The problem is about two year ago he hurt his back with two herniated discs, things like the deadlift are fine the only problems he has had so far is getting on and off the bench. He has pretty good squat form but whenever he squats he says that his right quad has a pain and it lasts for a few days after, he also has some problems getting to depth because of the pain.

I had him SS but I'm not sure squating 3 times a week is a good idea. He's not strong enough yet to do dips, chinups ect. and I don't think his back would allow powerclean until it becomes a little stronger.

Any help of suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Make sure he starts out slow and not going too heavy to try to impress or keep up w/ you.

If I recall correctly....things hurt when you are 44. Warmups and stretching are his friend and keep an eye on his form.
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Buy the book Beyond Brawn. It's full of great routines that would be perfect for him. It has many ideas for alternative exercises that he can do. For instance; if he can't squat but he can deadlift, get him a Trap Bar. The Trap Bar is an excellent exercise for somebody that can deadlift but is yet unable to squat. The routines will teach him about linear progression with cycles where he will be trying for PRs every two months instead of daily. It will also have him arranging his lower back recruitment so that he can recover effectively. Us old dudes just don't recover the same as the young bucks.
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Since I started lifting my dad has become pretty interested in it himself and wants to start.

The problem is about two year ago he hurt his back with two herniated discs, things like the deadlift are fine the only problems he has had so far is getting on and off the bench. He has pretty good squat form but whenever he squats he says that his right quad has a pain and it lasts for a few days after, he also has some problems getting to depth because of the pain.

I had him SS but I'm not sure squating 3 times a week is a good idea. He's not strong enough yet to do dips, chinups ect. and I don't think his back would allow powerclean until it becomes a little stronger.

Any help of suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'm 45 also have 2 bad disks. Among other things. You can always browse my logs for idea's for back work. Just tone it down a lot. lol

The back is nothing to play around with. Trust me. I used to be one of them "Stubborn fight threw it type".
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Squats and Deadlifts cure bad backs

You may not start with squats and deads, but it's certainly worth working to that end. For me, courtesy of my awesome PT, I started lifting milk crates with weight plates thrown in. Then progressed from there.
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Make sure he starts out slow and not going too heavy to try to impress or keep up w/ you.

If I recall correctly....things hurt when you are 44. Warmups and stretching are his friend and keep an eye on his form.
Trust me we are starting slow, the first week or two are mostly practicing the correct form.
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Buy the book Beyond Brawn. It's full of great routines that would be perfect for him. It has many ideas for alternative exercises that he can do. For instance; if he can't squat but he can deadlift, get him a Trap Bar. The Trap Bar is an excellent exercise for somebody that can deadlift but is yet unable to squat. The routines will teach him about linear progression with cycles where he will be trying for PRs every two months instead of daily. It will also have him arranging his lower back recruitment so that he can recover effectively. Us old dudes just don't recover the same as the young bucks.
The book looks pretty good might order that Saturday, I like the trap bar idea but not really in the budget right now.
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I'm 45 also have 2 bad disks. Among other things. You can always browse my logs for idea's for back work. Just tone it down a lot. lol

The back is nothing to play around with. Trust me. I used to be one of them "Stubborn fight threw it type".
My dad's trying to fight threw it with his leg but I made him rest tonight because I could tell he way feeling really bad.
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Is his quad hurting after practicing form with light weight or only when he challenges himself?
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When he is warming up he has a lot of problems getting to depth, but it really doesn't start bothering him a whole lot until his working sets.
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