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Old 09-20-2011, 09:48 AM   #21
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Let your efforts dictate your diet. I don't mean percieved efforts, I mean REAL effort. Bulking should take place when you are entering PR territory on some big lifts, like towards the end of a cycle. You know those days where you just have to eat a lot to feel normal and recovered.
Yeah, Btb and I think Casey Butt has made similar comments about eating heavier around the heavier workouts and lighter around lighter workouts. It definitely seems like a good long-term strategy.

In fact a lot of diet approaches arrange stuff this way.
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Now that I'm not uber bulking I am doing the same. On training days I eat BIG and dirty. On rest days I eat cleaner and more sparsely.

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Old 09-20-2011, 09:51 AM   #23
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Well I am certainly hungrier on a day when i have done a 20 rep set of squats than I am on a non-training day

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You guys are kind. I read all your work and learned to listen and then my gains took off. That 's why I get so snarky "over there" when little guys won't listen. It's self-defeating to be hard-headed.

I think if you want to build muscle for size or strength, you have to accept that you are going to carry some fat. The more okay you are with that-- the stronger you can get-- look at Gaspers, BTB, Squatter and LTL for proof.

When I started this bulk, I did not have abs. My stomach was flatter than it is now, but I still had a very healthy layer of fat on my torso. I was at 193 and really couldn't stand the thought of getting any smaller, so I went full on with bulking. One of my goals was to make my collar bone disappear.

So, I think I say all this to mean that the "type of bulk" depends on your goal. Bodybuilding for competition has the goal of illusion. Packing on as much muscle with as little fat so that you can diet down and remain a good size. Getting leaner to look bigger. Learning to pose to look massive, etc. I fully understand it, yet I don't embrace it, even though I consider myself a bodybuilder more than anything else.

I don't want to appear big or pose to look big. I learned to do some of that before I ever weighed 200 pounds. I wanted to BE big. I wanted to look big in casual pictures taken when I was unaware and not posing. I wanted to look like I trained hard when I wear a t-shirt and jeans and I'm finally there. So, bulk and train for what you want and accept some of the "side effects" while keeping your eye on the prize.
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So how do we explain this guY?

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Call me a cynic but he's sticking.

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Or a genetic freak.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again and again and again...
Let your efforts dictate your diet. I don't mean percieved efforts, I mean REAL effort. Bulking should take place when you are entering PR territory on some big lifts, like towards the end of a cycle. You know those days where you just have to eat a lot to feel normal and recovered.
This is what I figured. Read plenty from knowledgeable posters such as BTB and Faz who were saying that you need to eat your way out of plateaus in powerlifting. I will be hitting PR territory in a few weeks when I return from vacation so I know that more food will be needed.
Diet is fairly clean barring the occasional splurge during weekends but I reckon that I am not getting enough calories at the moment to sustain any PR development I do attain. Should probably go looking for diet advice in the relevant forums!
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