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Old 07-19-2011, 12:53 PM   #11
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yea i know what you mean..especially when beginners and novice lifters start worrying about every small thing about nutrition when they don't even know the basics and haven't stayed on a training program consistently. Some guys treat their diets like training programs, couple week is keto, then paleo, then atkins, the south beach, then abs diet, then eat like crap diet
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:17 PM   #12
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All this is reason I dont count calories at all. I watch what I eat but I surely wont starve myself.
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Glwanabe and I have been talking about putting together an eating plan that involves 3-4 sentences.
In many cases, just one word will be a good start - "EAT"
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:29 PM   #14
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When I made my gains I ate pretty instinctively and always focused on a big post-workout meal.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:12 PM   #15
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The words "slow cut" are just as painful to me. It kills me seeing people suggesting no more than 1 pound per week of weight loss to a guy who has more than 100 pounds to lose. Sure, 5 pounds a week is probably excessive after the first couple weeks, but when there is A LOT of fat, burn it as fast as your body wants to without starving.

And yes, 5'10" 140 pounder slow bulking is ridiculous. Just now thought about that again. My slow bulk was 50ish pounds over 10 months. Cutting now at about 2 pounds a week on average. For the novice level, caring about ounces and abs is foolhardy. Put on some man-weight!
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Who's ass should I kick first???? So many choices, so little time.


But, I have better things to do right now, like training to enter my first PL meet @ under 148#.
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LOL, I hope none of you all take me too serious.

I know this thread is not about me....I'm only 5'9"
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LOL, I hope none of you all take me too serious.

I know this thread is not about me....I'm only 5'9"
Lol, no worries. I'm 6'5" so it colors how i see body weight anyway. You also have a goal weight for competition by the look of it. Around here, we seem to be the exceptions that prove the rule, part of the reason i like it here.
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I have found and have advised others that one should count calories for a period of a week or two or three. I find most people are clueless to what they are ingesting and the macro's of said food..it can be very enlightening, especially for the folks that say they are eatiing 5000 cal and can't gain weight, but than you look at it and it is closer to 2000..i know slight exaggeration
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Just for the record my comments are never towards bodybuilders or powerlifters with experience. They are always towards novice recreational lifters who aren't making any progress. I would never lecture anyone successful.

I think we have all seen the novice recreational lifter who isn't making gains and continues to cycle or obsess between bulks and cuts.

None of my comments are ever to anyone successful. They already know what works and doesn't. My only intention in starting thread was to state that when I see "slow bulk" on a forum by a kid with no lifting experience, and he weighs 140, 9 times out of ten the kid is likely to undereat for 12 weeks, then go on a cut.

I have stated over and over again on this forum that a slow bulk is the way to go for intermediates plus.
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