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Old 02-01-2011, 11:00 PM   #201
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I have now been running the fullbody challenge for 64 days. I didn't realize it had been that long.
Thats 9 weeks, and you have set several pr's in that time.

THATS damn good work Steve!!
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Thanks GL. I had to look back and see when I started because I was losing track of time.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:22 AM   #203
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I think everyone in this thread has made a fantastic start, im a couple of weeks or so behind, but im getting there. Steve 64 days already... time flies huh Your doing brilliant mate, real inspiring stuff from you, GL and the others. I dont know what i would have done without you and GL these last few weeks. I may have quit altogether, so thanks to you, GL the site and this thread which gave me the idea of a full body in the first place

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You ain't ever quitting Carl. This full body routine has me feeling refreshed and new as well though. I've never been so eager to get in the gym. Greatest thing I have ever started. I can't believe it took me this long.
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I think everyone in this thread has made a fantastic start, im a couple of weeks or so behind, but im getting there. Steve 64 days already... time flies huh Your doing brilliant mate, real inspiring stuff from you, GL and the others. I dont know what i would have done without you and GL these last few weeks. I may have quit altogether, so thanks to you, GL the site and this thread which gave me the idea of a full body in the first place

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You ain't ever quitting Carl. This full body routine has me feeling refreshed and new as well though. I've never been so eager to get in the gym. Greatest thing I have ever started. I can't believe it took me this long.
It is great having you two join in and take this journey with us. This type of training is so often misunderstood, and not given the right approach, for it to work.

I have learned a lot in the last year about it myself. A lot of what I learned came from reading everything Dr. Casey Butt has written. His articles here on MAB, and his website have been an invaluable resource to me, in the science of this work. Other aspects, such as the actual challenge routines are my creation more or less. The challenge routines are derived in large part from the people who inspired them, but with some of my own ideas as well.

Those ideas are mainly format based. Keeping all of them to a three day a week program is one. Some of the actual, and number of moves, as well as sequence are my ideas. I am also a big fan of the A/B split program. I used an A/B split last year, and made great progress on it.

There was also the John Christy thread that Steve posted. That one thread has so much valuable training info it is ridiculous. I wish that one thread was required reading.

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I think everyone in this thread has made a fantastic start, im a couple of weeks or so behind, but im getting there. Steve 64 days already... time flies huh Your doing brilliant mate, real inspiring stuff from you, GL and the others. I dont know what i would have done without you and GL these last few weeks. I may have quit altogether, so thanks to you, GL the site and this thread which gave me the idea of a full body in the first place

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Thanks Carl. As I said, it goes both ways. Everyone here keeps me motivated.

I was reading a book by Dan John last night, and he was talking about movements, not muscles. I also was flipping through Paul Anderson's biography.

It is refreshing for me to see men unplug from all the perceived complexity, and to merely rely on the most effective lifts and approaches.

On the other hand, I flipped open the latest issue of Muscle & Fiction this morning while on the pot (get it because of my daughter's school magazine drive), and they has a beginner's leg workout with 20 sets, and it included a 50 rep squat set and a 20 rep squat set.

One of the major issues with splits is that they command multiple movements, so therefore, to be creative people must plug in all sorts of variations. Variations stray from the basics, so I ask you...is this the best way to train? Then, of course, you get Joe Gymrat who doesn't like "Lift X", and splits turn into a total farce; a complete buffet.

Splits can work, but they need to utilize the same basics as a fullbody approach. They also need to stay simple and not overuse lifts just for the sake of creativity and volume.

/Anywho...
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I loved this quote in the John Christy thread about using the correct exercises and not wasting time doing all different sorts of isolation moves...
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kinda sums up for me whay the fullbody is so successful

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kinda sums up for me whay the fullbody is so successful

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Thats an awesome quote Carl. I have to read the John Christy thread.
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I was reading a book by Dan John last night, and he was talking about movements, not muscles. I also was flipping through Paul Anderson's biography.

Which book Steve?

It is refreshing for me to see men unplug from all the perceived complexity, and to merely rely on the most effective lifts and approaches.

I keep going back to the Bulgarians, and how they approach lifting. Minimal number of total moves, but intensity and progression are pushed.

They do:

Clean and jerk
Snatches
Front squats
some back squats

Insert Ivan Stoitsov pic here.


On the other hand, I flipped open the latest issue of Muscle & Fiction this morning while on the pot (get it because of my daughter's school magazine drive), and they has a beginner's leg workout with 20 sets, and it included a 50 rep squat set and a 20 rep squat set.

Insert facepalm pic here.

One of the major issues with splits is that they command multiple movements, so therefore, to be create people must plug in all sorts of variations. Then, of course, you get Joe Gymrat who doesn't like "Lift X", and splits turn into a total farce; a complete buffet.

I won't even get started here. There is a whole article that could be written on Joe Gymrat, and his idea of programs.

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hahahaha greatposts... i have just read the Bulgarian Weightlifting link you sent me GL... great stuff in there

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