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Old 05-29-2010, 03:26 PM   #11
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Very light/mild PCT required. I'd recommend Formadrol Extreme, and really think that would be ample, but you could get away with a Resveratrol product, and quite possibly even a stronger herbal test booster. It's kind of up to you.

Support supps are not NECESSARY, but they're never a bad idea. We will have CycleShield available soon for on-cycle support or all-around daily health.

In all honesty, I probably won't use any on-cycle support for Natatropin.

And for those wondering why would PCT be required if it is a "Natural" product?
Simple, It is natural in the sense that the androgen is extracted from a natural plant source.

It is not a test booster, nor is it a PH. - It carries with it androgenic activity on its own and needs no conversion, but it is non-steroidal.

It is NOT steroidal.
It is NOT a prohormone.
It IS androgenic and has the possiblity of androgenic sides, although none have been reported.
It DOES require a PCT.
What age would you recommend as a minimum age for this stack?
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:32 PM   #12
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What age would you recommend as a minimum age for this stack?
I always recomend 21 bro, cause if your younger than that you should be growing like a weed if your diet and training are in check.
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:35 PM   #13
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That's what I figured. I'm eating as much as I can and taking all those supplements I listed at the beginning. I just want to see if there are any better options out there that I haven't heard about.
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I would try eating and eating A lot, Then I would squat a lot - Fronts and Backs, Squat with anything...Those Mass building supps work far better then anything, The other stuff will just give you the runs as you get older hahahah
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forget the supps and forget the milk and whatever else you can think of..........

food glorious food! eat tons of it and work out hard then sleep and repeat! you can take as many supps as you want but they are no replacement for food and tons of it!
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forget the supps and forget the milk and whatever else you can think of..........
You need to get on the BCAA/Glutamine train. They really help reduce DOMs and help with recovery.

I don't recommend going supplement free. I'm a big fan of a multi, fish oil, BCAAs/Glutamine and whey at minimum. I think he has a rock solid basic plan.

Lifting can tax the heck out of the body, and even if you are eating a ton there are holes in your nutrition. I realized this after I started getting my levels checked. My D-3 was very low, as were several other levels.

Fish oil helps with many things, including joint and tendon pain and inflammation. BCAAs/Glutamine help with recovery and soreness. Sure, they aren't "mass builders." But they do help you run more effectively.
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^^ i guess they may have been too blunt....

i wasn't saying forget them as in don't take them cause they serve no purpose. i was simply saying there is no greater "mass builder" than FOOD! i believe in taking whey imediately after lifting cause its the fastest processed through the body. but i don't drink three a day and don't think anyone should have to when they are looking to gain weight. i also take fish oils and a daily and i take my glutamine when i remember to but i don't believe this is creating any more mass on my body than if i was not to take them at all.
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and...wait for it..

turmeric

actually pretty impressed by tumeric.

reduces inflammation. prevents cancer, memory loss, supress fat tissue growth and so on...

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Trust me jslep I've been eating, eating, eating. I feel like a fatty because of it, but if that's what it takes that's fine with me!
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^^ i guess they may have been too blunt....

i wasn't saying forget them as in don't take them cause they serve no purpose. i was simply saying there is no greater "mass builder" than FOOD! i believe in taking whey imediately after lifting cause its the fastest processed through the body. but i don't drink three a day and don't think anyone should have to when they are looking to gain weight. i also take fish oils and a daily and i take my glutamine when i remember to but i don't believe this is creating any more mass on my body than if i was not to take them at all.
I agree with you. Supplements aren't mass builders.

I just wanted to make sure that Andy understood that he had made some wise choices. Supplements help quality of living, joints, immune system health, sleep and much much. They can help you train better, and help ward off illness. Nitric Oxide helps me train better
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