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Old 05-14-2010, 07:40 PM   #11
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Ok, I worded that wrong..What I ment is that dude just body-builds and he is stronger then most power lifters who are training for strength, I think sometimes people look to deep into things. Just lift it and keep lifting it till muscles pop out and you are strong as monkey!
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:45 PM   #12
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prance in a man-thong, bodybuild.
cmon now..........lets not get insulting.

i will neither prance nor wear a thong on stage unless you throw a twenty-spot at me.
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Old 05-14-2010, 10:01 PM   #13
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cmon now..........lets not get insulting.

i will neither prance nor wear a thong on stage unless you throw a twenty-spot at me.
Post was all in good fun...

And I think I'll keep my money for a new singlet; but thanks for the offer. lmao
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:00 AM   #14
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Ok, I worded that wrong..What I ment is that dude just body-builds and he is stronger then most power lifters who are training for strength, I think sometimes people look to deep into things. Just lift it and keep lifting it till muscles pop out and you are strong as monkey!
I gotcha Max. And I agree completely with what you were saying.

I think along the exact same lines. Lift heavy rock. Kill and eat big animal. Make time with woman.

I tend to believe that both powerlifting and bodybuilding are easy until you get to an advanced level. And when you do, science and theory make more of a difference.

Worrying about 5/3/1 or speed deadlifts when you deadlift 270 is a bit much, IMHO. I think basic linear progression goes a long way.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:34 AM   #15
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How about this ( I learned this from OTk) just lift god damn weights lol... Be strong all the time..Eat, Lift, Eat, Lift till your eyes bleed..


That fool is stronger then most of these So called Power lifters and he just body builds and eats.
That'll leave a mark. How ya been Max?

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Starting Strength/5x5 programs are a great way to start off.

But all you've gotta do is train for strength (and EAT) if that's what you're after.

If you want to look good on a stage with bright lights as you prance in a man-thong, bodybuild.
Thats so wrong, damn, now I a mental image of me.....

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cmon now..........lets not get insulting.

i will neither prance nor wear a thong on stage unless you throw a twenty-spot at me.
Count me in for a 10...lol
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Old 05-18-2010, 03:07 AM   #16
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I would stick with core basic exercises, but would stick in rep ranges 5+ until you build up some strength.
Do you have some kind of "baseline", numbers, when you think that trainee would benefit of doing rep ranges of 1-5?

Also, for getting more power, is it more beneficial to do straight sets, like 5x5 or pyramid-type of training, like 10-8-6-4-2?
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:03 PM   #17
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Powerlifting is being strong at your one rep max for you Squat, Bench Press and Deadlift. You can do whatever hell assistance work you want, as long as your goal is to bring up those 3 lifts and you have the iron will to compete you can be a powerlifter.

Following classic bodybuilding template you start off with Squats on leg day, Deadlifts on back day and Bench Press on chest day, followed by narrow grip bench press on arms day.
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Do you have some kind of "baseline", numbers, when you think that trainee would benefit of doing rep ranges of 1-5?

Also, for getting more power, is it more beneficial to do straight sets, like 5x5 or pyramid-type of training, like 10-8-6-4-2?
Personally I think you can get quite a bit of mileage out of linear progression. If I were coaching someone I would tell them to get to a 250 bench, 350 squat and 400 deadlift. Or about a 1000 pound total. But this would depend on the trainee and their mental and physical maturity.

For power I would rather see you do a 5x5, or a 2-4-6-8-10. I would rather see the heaviest sets when you're fresh. I don't like the idea of heavy sets when the body is worn down a bit from previous higher rep sets.

This is just my personal take, and by no means do I think it's the only answer. merely the way would train someone.
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Personally I think you can get quite a bit of mileage out of linear progression. If I were coaching someone I would tell them to get to a 250 bench, 350 squat and 400 deadlift. Or about a 1000 pound total. But this would depend on the trainee and their mental and physical maturity.

For power I would rather see you do a 5x5, or a 2-4-6-8-10. I would rather see the heaviest sets when you're fresh. I don't like the idea of heavy sets when the body is worn down a bit from previous higher rep sets.

This is just my personal take, and by no means do I think it's the only answer. merely the way would train someone.
i actually like pyramiding down the way the buckey chart has me doing it Buckeye Workout Program Chart
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Personally I think you can get quite a bit of mileage out of linear progression. If I were coaching someone I would tell them to get to a 250 bench, 350 squat and 400 deadlift. Or about a 1000 pound total. But this would depend on the trainee and their mental and physical maturity.

For power I would rather see you do a 5x5, or a 2-4-6-8-10. I would rather see the heaviest sets when you're fresh. I don't like the idea of heavy sets when the body is worn down a bit from previous higher rep sets.

This is just my personal take, and by no means do I think it's the only answer. merely the way would train someone.
Hmm, ok. Im not there yet, my current total is 860 pounds(next week I try to improve that). That is interesting, doing pyramid that way! Might work out pretty well. Although, it takes longer time to train because that way more warm up sets are needed.

Yesterday my workout was Squat 10-8-6-4-2, Bench 10-8-6-4-2, Deadlift 10-8-6-4-2 and Overhead press 8-6-3-2 and it was absolutely brutal. I really tried to test myself and and that last 2 reps were always only 10 pounds from my 1-rep max PR. I managed to get through only with Squat, in Bench and Overhead Press I managed to get 1 rep out of that last set and in Deadlift could only do 10-8-6-2-0..pathetic..

But good thoughts, thanks. Have to think which way suits me better. Just want to get "big three" to 300-400-500 as soon as possible.
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