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Old 04-22-2010, 04:56 PM   #21
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We have a female's opinion on this. Case closed.
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:37 PM   #22
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We have a female's opinion on this. Case closed.
You bet


All calories are equal?

Nope.

You NEED to count calories to lose fat?

Nope!
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There is no need to do cardio no matter fitness goals. The only cardio athletes should do is practice their particular sport. I will agree, however, it may be mentally healthy to take a lesurely stroll around the neighborhood, go surfing, throw a football, ect.
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:46 PM   #25
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There is no need to do cardio no matter fitness goals. The only cardio athletes should do is practice their particular sport. I will agree, however, it may be mentally healthy to take a lesurely stroll around the neighborhood, go surfing, throw a football, ect.
It depends. There are a lot of health benefits to doing cardio, not just cardiovascular health. It's good for circulation, recovery, improved appetite, etc. Sure, you don't need excessive amounts of the stuff, and I prefer short metabolic sessions over boring long-duration SS cardio, but I do think that some cardio is very beneficial. To say you don't need any at all no matter what your fitness goals, is a little extreme, IMO.


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Another example....

"Getting stronger is required for muscle growth."

Do you know of any massive, muscular lifters who only bench 180? I don't. In fact, I don't know any that bench under 280.
i think you meant to type is NOT required. the way you actually wrote it is the truth!
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I would say not necessary, but they sure are darn convenient and save me $$$.

But to say they are needed for growth...I would say no.
Note - All of the following comes with a qualifier - these are for a novice lifter like me. So the mass monsters, please don't bother reading this post.

Let's have some interesting experiments, and take stock of the results at the end of the year.

1. My lifting stats at the start of the year are documented in my journal. By end of this year, if I grow stronger and bigger despite a rather irregular schedule, then we can call BS on supps of any kind being necessary since I am not taking any supps and relying solely on whole food.

2. Let's also see if sticking to compounds help me gain 0.5-1" on my arms over the entire year. The idea? To show that tons of isolations are not necessary; that hitting muscle from numerous angles isn't necessary for novice lifters at least.

3. Let's also see if balls to wall training is necessary to get bigger and stronger. Currently, I am lifting sub-maximal weights. Even though on some lift I am at my PR or very close, they still feel lighter than earlier (i.e. my max has probably gone up, and these loads are still sub-maximal for me NOW, even though they might be a PR or close).

BTB, sorry if this post is OT. In such a case, feel free to delete it.
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Note - All of the following comes with a qualifier - these are for a novice lifter like me. So the mass monsters, please don't bother reading this post.

Let's have some interesting experiments, and take stock of the results at the end of the year.

1. My lifting stats at the start of the year are documented in my journal. By end of this year, if I grow stronger and bigger despite a rather irregular schedule, then we can call BS on supps of any kind being necessary since I am not taking any supps and relying solely on whole food.

2. Let's also see if sticking to compounds help me gain 0.5-1" on my arms over the entire year. The idea? To show that tons of isolations are not necessary; that hitting muscle from numerous angles isn't necessary for novice lifters at least.

3. Let's also see if balls to wall training is necessary to get bigger and stronger. Currently, I am lifting sub-maximal weights. Even though on some lift I am at my PR or very close, they still feel lighter than earlier (i.e. my max has probably gone up, and these loads are still sub-maximal for me NOW, even though they might be a PR or close).

BTB, sorry if this post is OT. In such a case, feel free to delete it.
Not off topic at all. Good stuff. I never used supplements at all. I gained all of my muscle on zero supplements. It was only the last several years that I have stuck my toe in the water.

And I made most of my gains doing zero isolation movements.

This is the type of stuff I love reading about.
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Note - All of the following comes with a qualifier - these are for a novice lifter like me. So the mass monsters, please don't bother reading this post.

Let's have some interesting experiments, and take stock of the results at the end of the year.

1. My lifting stats at the start of the year are documented in my journal. By end of this year, if I grow stronger and bigger despite a rather irregular schedule, then we can call BS on supps of any kind being necessary since I am not taking any supps and relying solely on whole food.

2. Let's also see if sticking to compounds help me gain 0.5-1" on my arms over the entire year. The idea? To show that tons of isolations are not necessary; that hitting muscle from numerous angles isn't necessary for novice lifters at least.

3. Let's also see if balls to wall training is necessary to get bigger and stronger. Currently, I am lifting sub-maximal weights. Even though on some lift I am at my PR or very close, they still feel lighter than earlier (i.e. my max has probably gone up, and these loads are still sub-maximal for me NOW, even though they might be a PR or close).

BTB, sorry if this post is OT. In such a case, feel free to delete it.
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Not off topic at all. Good stuff. I never used supplements at all. I gained all of my muscle on zero supplements. It was only the last several years that I have stuck my toe in the water.

And I made most of my gains doing zero isolation movements.

This is the type of stuff I love reading about.
Me too. I haven't been in your journal at all, kit. I am very sorry. I had no idea this was your approach. I'm in from now on, though. I wish you well, and want to see how you progress. You've got three very valid points of interest. You are the guinea pig, I guess.
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