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Old 03-24-2014, 01:36 PM   #11
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That is interesting, I dont know of many top tier squatters that use a heel. I am sure you will see more in the IPF areas with a hell. Got me interested in looking now haha.
Dan Green, Malanichev, Steve Goggins come to mind. I think you are right that lots of IPF lifters use them but I don't know any of their names really! I think a lot of top squatters use a non-raised heel shoe as well. It's really just a matter of personal preference in my opinion. Personally, I prefer a raised heel.
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Malanichev wasnt at RUM (best I can remember)

Goggins has hip issues and depth issues, which is reason for the shoe.

Green, I didnt look.
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Dan Green, Malanichev, Steve Goggins come to mind. I think you are right that lots of IPF lifters use them but I don't know any of their names really! I think a lot of top squatters use a non-raised heel shoe as well. It's really just a matter of personal preference in my opinion. Personally, I prefer a raised heel.
Seems to be more prevalent in the raw lifting world, since those guys generally want a more upright stance. I haven't seen many multi ply guys go away from a flat sole.
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Seems to be more prevalent in the raw lifting world, since those guys generally want a more upright stance. I haven't seen many multi ply guys go away from a flat sole.
a few of the russians do it. I used a heel for years. I am thinking if I do a single ply meet I may go back to them.
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a few of the russians do it. I used a heel for years. I am thinking if I do a single ply meet I may go back to them.
The Reeboks I have on the way are actually going to be my first non-chuck lifting shoe, even though they are pretty much the same thing. I may mess with a heal at some point, but I've never had any problem hitting depth. I have put plates under my heals and, of course, it felt weird as hell, but also not powerful whatsoever.
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I use addidas power shoes for ankle mobility issues and helps me hit depth on squats. I have tried to use flat soled but with the ankle surgery it has ruined my mobility so I have to come up on toes.

I would like to try some elbow sleeves and I've never used a belt. Great post!
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As far as ive heard, a raised heel is best used with an extremely close stance. However, everyone is different.

Sleeves cant hurt. And that is where my knowledge ends. If you choose a lever belt, you might end up having to readjust it for squats differently than you would deadlifts.
I quite liked how they felt today, though my knee sleeves were too small, luckily they were only cheap!!




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1. A flat sole is most desirable for squatting. If the shoe has a flat sole, go for it. I wore a pair of slip-on boat shoes for a year until I blew them out.

2. I use elbow sleeves when I have tendinitis acting up and I need to train through it. It helps keep the joint warm and the tendons compressed. I almost always use knee sleeves because they keep the joint warm. Any extra warmth I can get is a plus for joint health.

3. I dislike the belts that are tapered. I prefer a belt that is the same size all the way around, so I can really brace against it. I have never used a lever belt, so I can't comment there. If you are looking for a decent belt, you can find a two prong generic brand on amazon for about $50. Spud also makes great flexible belts that secure with velcro.


Thanks for your reply, it was really helpful! I like a belt that is the same width around before. Lever belts look cool but I feel that is as far as they go. I quite like that I can adjust a lot with getting a thick and heavy two prong belt.

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Any flat sole is fine, I have seen 1000lb squats in Nike and Adidas basketball shoes. If you like a heel, I squatted in timberland boots for years.

I wear knee sleeves for my light stuff just for some protection and warmth, wear elbow sleeves to fight tendinitis.

Lever belts are good, but expensive. Can get a good single prong 10mm belt for pretty cheap.
When you say flat basketball shoes do you mean completely flat? Or are you talking flat soled with a slight arch inside the foot? Most of them have that.

I enjoyed the feeling of sleeves, comfortable!




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I like a raised heel...I have a pair of Nike Romaleos 2. I love them. I sold a few things and saved that money for when they had a good coupon deal at Eastbay. Got them for $150 Shipped to my Door. They have a Huge Foot print and a Flat Sole. Just the insole as been raised. Also the insole is cupped around your foot to help lock it in place. I had a pair of Rogues and like them, but when I got the Nikes I was like WOW.. If you can't swing that much. Look at the Adidas Powerlift 2.0's. Just under $90.

Extra Tip... If you live anywhere near a Reebok Outlet check there for their Oly shoes. I saw a ton there for $60.. in many sizes. They where just clearing out certain colors.

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All the time. All mine are cloth though. I'm trying to get some neoprene ones since they warm better. liftinglarge.com as a economy equipment section you can pick up decent sleeves at a good price.



The Lever doesn't really add support.. its more for a quicker latch or unlatching. The support comes from the thickness. Top of the line belts like BestBelts are sweet. I have a 13mm of theirs and it will out last me. Your looking at $100 there. I have seen them as low as $80 on other sites. But for $55. Andersonpowerlifting.com has a single prong 10mm that is good too. I have it as well.

I'd stay away from Lever belts. They are a pain to adjust the size. The metal they use in the lever is softer then the screw they use to hold it in place. So it is very easy to strip out. And if it does you have to buy a whole in lever. But they look cool.....haha
Yeah I have noticed lever belts seem to be a pain! Thank you so much for this reply, it was extremely helpful! Im really hoping I can save a bit of spare money to get some, but this post was really helpful! Thank you!

I'm hoping that when I move in a month or so I can still do my big and heavy lifts, so holding off until then but will def come back to this post!
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Like Ramrod I prefer a raised heal but I have the Adidas he mentioned. I have fairly narrow feet and adidas tend to fit me better than Nike. Best $90 I've spent for the gym and in comparison to the cycling shoes I had to buy every few years at $400 they are a bargain.
Wow!! $400 for cycling shoes? Is that mountain biking shoes? I k ow their sole is flat but slightly raised heel. I have quite slim but long feet, so maybe Adidas lifting shoes are the way forward? I wear Jordan and Basketball to hoop in but don't know if that'll translate fit wise.




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I also have Nike Roamleos and love the raised heel, which I feel is especially helpful to a deep squatter like me. I also love the stability - once you are in place, your feel are not moving anywhere. Too me, stability is everything.

I use SBD knee sleeves a love the warmth they provide, along with some stability on moderate weights. They also seem to provide a little assistance with some bounce out of the hole. However, when I am approaching max weights, I use knee wraps - loose on near maxes and tight on maxes or next to maxes.

I also have an Inzer lever belt, and love it. I bought it because I liked the convenience and the fact that it was used and broken in already. I feel the most important thing to remember when using a belt is to wear it high enough so you can feel and keep your air.

I realize equipment costs money, of which it seems not alot of people have alot of these days, but any sport you involve your self in costs money. here in Canada, parents can spend around $5000 on hockey equipment for their kids. I feel it also a matter of perspective when spending money on your sport.
This is why I'm asking questions right now, because if I am going to spend money on it I want to make sure that it is good and right for me, plus if it is actually worth it or not!

They certainly can, hockey is expensive ha! Thank you for this post dude it was really helpful, i'm learning a lot from these replies and it is influencing my decision well! Thank you dude!!




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I disagree, a LOT of high level lifters squat in raised heels. They both fix any possible ankle mobility problems and allow you to sit back more without falling (I call it 'leaning against the heel').

I'd honestly say that the majority of people will squat better better in a raised heel with people who perform better in a flat shoe being the minority. Obviously you're not going to see this in practice lots of people don't care enough about their squat to buy an olympic shoe or simply don't know about them.
I like to use a 5kg / 11lbs plate on the floor as it's about .75 inch thick, which plus a bit of my sole acts nicely as a heel since I can't afford squatting shoes!

I care about my squat just weighing up costs and such, thank you for your helpful response! Thaks dude!
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Malanichev wasnt at RUM (best I can remember)

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Green, I didnt look.
I find a raised heel helps because of me having hip tightness!!





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The Reeboks I have on the way are actually going to be my first non-chuck lifting shoe, even though they are pretty much the same thing. I may mess with a heal at some point, but I've never had any problem hitting depth. I have put plates under my heals and, of course, it felt weird as hell, but also not powerful whatsoever.
Is that the Reebok crossfit shoe? (Sorry for swearing lol) I've seen they are really similar. Thats odd you say that. I've ditched the plates now, we just have some mats where the squat rack starts. About 10mm thickness which helps a little bit but takes nothing away.




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I use addidas power shoes for ankle mobility issues and helps me hit depth on squats. I have tried to use flat soled but with the ankle surgery it has ruined my mobility so I have to come up on toes.

I would like to try some elbow sleeves and I've never used a belt. Great post!
I liked elbow sleeves today, they were nice and helped keep my joints warm.

I can imagine it is difficult with ankle issues. Thanks for the feedback!!

Hopefully this post can help others too!
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Yeah, I'm getting a pair of the Reebok crossfit lite PR. It's the shoe that Mark Bell helped design. I was sold after I did some research. Hopefully they work out.

By the way, I should mention that I use special orthodics that are designed to help with my foot pain (plantar fasciitis). They support my arch and also increase the heal rise just slightly in any shoe I use. I even use them when I squat, but it's hardly a raised heal.
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