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Old 12-11-2013, 10:02 AM   #11
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I would personally look to use chains or reverse bands.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:11 AM   #12
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Thx soldier. I am doing partials 2x/week and fulls 1x/week. Also ending my partial sessions with lighter weight pause squats.

Also, I have no chains or bands. The crossfit area in the gym does but they lock there shit up when they aren't using it. (That's why I don't feel bad about telling their trainer to "get the hell out of my squat rack")
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When I decided to do this style of training I told myself that I'd work so hard and push myself so hard that no one could question whether I was getting anything out of it or not.

I've never seen anyone in the gyms where I work push themselves so hard that they ended up on the ground trying to catch their breath. Sad. I've done it multiple times in sessions before, and 1/4 squats put me there like nothing else. It's quite an experience.

OH, and don't forget that these are pin squats. That makes all the difference. Not having to stop the weight yourself takes some of the stress off the knees.
Oh, ok. I didn't know they were pinned. I just assumed they were run-of-the-mill 1/4 or 1/2 squats. I bet that it is still hard to get the weight started back up from a dead stop on the pins, though. Have you noticed any more pain in your knees with these?
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Oh, ok. I didn't know they were pinned. I just assumed they were run-of-the-mill 1/4 or 1/2 squats. I bet that it is still hard to get the weight started back up from a dead stop on the pins, though. Have you noticed any more pain in your knees with these?
Not any aches, but I did feel a bit of a tinge that would creep up if I moved my right knee in a certain way. At first I did the squats from the pins, but I wanted to work my walkout too, so I started walking them out. I soon realized that I could lift more if I stayed tight and hit the pins hard, as opposed to actually stopping and losing a little tightness between reps. An argument could be made for both styles, and I also enjoy dead stop pin squats as well.
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will have to give that a try this friday (the pins) I was just doing it with a visual cue for depth
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If you don't want to actually hit the pins then I'd suggest bringing a couple pillows or rolled up towels and placing them on pins that are set just below where you want to go. That way you at least have a depth gauge that you should be able to feel or at least see if you have a mirror in front of you. Watch those knees! Do lots of prehab/mobility work. Remember, knees generally don't like stopping higher than parallel, AND you'll be using more weight than you're used to. Some may get away with it, but I'm getting too old to be taking chances like that, so I let the pins do the stopping for me.

...and for the record, Paul Anderson used pins for this training too. But I'm not a stickler for rules, as long as people know about the risks involved.
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Will do. Thanks for all your advice on the subject. How long do you normally stay with a given height before lowering?
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