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Old 11-25-2013, 06:00 PM   #11
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Everyone automatically assumes the cause of death was due to supplements. I didn't see anything written that shows it was a factor in the death.
I didn't and whether or not "supplements" were a contributing factor or not, I think that going from one extreme to the other (ripped to just massive at over 400 lbs) and vice versa places a huge strain on the heart and body, especially if it's repeated over and over again. Although my Aunt was not a bodybuilder by any means, she also died of heart failure in her early 50's due to dieting and gaining weight too many times - that is what we were told by her Doctor.

Perhaps he was a victim of similar circumstances.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:12 PM   #12
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just making a statement about his 420+ body weight.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:26 PM   #13
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I'm sure that weight is a factor, but to many people will assume steroids was a factor. My sister died in her early 50's. Overweight and smoking. You don't see many people much older than 60 over 300 lbs, let alone 400. I have an uncle that weighs 280 and is 85, and still works in the field farming. He is unusual though.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:32 PM   #14
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No need to beat around the bush. I do think it was related to the use of steroids. Can I prove it? Nope. It is likely that doctors may not be able to draw a direct link. But that is my opinion. It is widely known that steroid use in the pros is abundant. Heck, they wouldn't be competitive otherwise. It is also known that steroids can cause serious heart problems or worsen existing heart conditions. I guess being that heavy is hard on the heart, but I'm 390lbs, 6 years younger than Greg, and healthy as a horse. No bp meds. No diabetes. Nothing. I have several family members who are heavy like me and in their sixties. (Who never even lifted/worked out). All of that being said, I do think steroids played a large part in Greg's death. It is sad. Greg was one of my favorites back in the 90's.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:24 PM   #15
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360 here. And i couldnt agree more with ya Rog.
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Everyone automatically assumes the cause of death was due to supplements. I didn't see anything written that shows it was a factor in the death.
Not sure how many assume that, my query was just based on his physique but wasn't meant to mean that if he was pumping other stuff that it was the cause of death etc.

Some people do tend to assume that if someone gets an injury or dies it's because of the sport they were in to, heck my sister broke her foot, resulting in an automatic assumption from her bosses was that it was done whilst she was doing karate.

When I say physique, just to clarify, I don't mean his size, I mean aspects that stand out.
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I didn't and whether or not "supplements" were a contributing factor or not, I think that going from one extreme to the other (ripped to just massive at over 400 lbs) and vice versa places a huge strain on the heart and body, especially if it's repeated over and over again. Although my Aunt was not a bodybuilder by any means, she also died of heart failure in her early 50's due to dieting and gaining weight too many times - that is what we were told by her Doctor.

Perhaps he was a victim of similar circumstances.
I actually heard a doctor say once that it's more healthy to be obese all the time than to be constantly shifting between obesity and a healthy weight. It's definitely at least part of the story.
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He was injecting north of 10000mg of test alone. that's not healthy.
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