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Old 09-27-2013, 03:52 PM   #21
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Honestly, the way it seems is there is no feds that are "true 100% natural" the whole natty debate has gotten so out of hand i just want to say fuck it and start using, haha.
I'm not going down that road. I just know the biggest "natties" in the industry gravitate towards the Yorton. I am not saying everyone in the Yorton is on drugs. No way, not going there. I will say though that I don't believe everyone in that competition is natural.

Beyond this, some contests are proclaimed natural but testing is crap. Certain athletes gravitate towards certain types on contests.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:52 PM   #22
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Yeah the guy on the left is diff on something. I think its apple juice and steaks haha.
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Some AAS leave your system withing hours/days, so a piss test can be beaten. Polygraphs are widely known as unreliable and up to the discrimination of the administrator. Pop some beta blockers which inhibit the adrenal response that the test looks for, and you are golden. Also some people can just keep calm enough to pass the test even while lying.
So lets say you can use drugs and compete in any natural fed regardless of any testing. I don't see why you would? All the money is in the IFBB. The cost of gear is more then any prize money you would get in a natural show. The accolade of winning a natural show is minor compared to a IFBB show even NPC or CBBF.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:55 PM   #24
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Yeah the guy on the left is diff on something. I think its apple juice and steaks haha.
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So lets say you can use drugs and compete in any natural fed regardless of any testing. I don't see why you would? All the money is in the IFBB. The cost of gear is more then any prize money you would get in a natural show. The accolade of winning a natural show is minor compared to a IFBB show even NPC or CBBF.
Some of it would just come down to ego, the need to win at all costs.


I've no idea on the original topic of the thread, just putting that out there
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So lets say you can use drugs and compete in any natural fed regardless of any testing. I don't see why you would? All the money is in the IFBB. The cost of gear is more then any prize money you would get in a natural show. The accolade of winning a natural show is minor compared to a IFBB show even NPC or CBBF.
While the money may be in IFBB, the pro's in IFBB spent an insane amount of drugs and they put their health at risk. For a natural show, you could use far less gear and risk your health far less. The cost of contest prep would be a fraction of an IFBBer. So really you could possibly make more, and live a bit longer. My two cents anyways
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Some of it would just come down to ego, the need to win at all costs.


I've no idea on the original topic of the thread, just putting that out there
Exactly, very few people actually bodybuilding/powerlift for the money (because there barely is any, and drugs are expensive.)

I'd also like to point out that you can easily be on drugs 364 days a year and pass a piss/blood test if you know your drugs, especially if you know exactly when you'll be tested.
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Those guys dont have the genetics to compete in the IFBB. Getting an IFBB Pro Card is not an easy thing to do and almost impossible without drugs and the right parents. I would say impossible but supposedly Coleman was natural when he went pro.

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Those guy I would say impossible but supposedly Coleman was natural when he went pro.
Supposidly he said this

Anyway this issue seems a mess and I doubt Mr B knows the law (UK) as much as he thinks so good luck to all concerned. Hardly eithers finest hr.
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So lets say you can use drugs and compete in any natural fed regardless of any testing. I don't see why you would? All the money is in the IFBB. The cost of gear is more then any prize money you would get in a natural show. The accolade of winning a natural show is minor compared to a IFBB show even NPC or CBBF.
People will do anything for a shitty trophy and many feel their own values (or lack off) supersedes the regs they promised to uphold! Same in PL.
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