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Old 12-11-2013, 11:53 AM   #21
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That's right: fruit is full of fructose. And guess what that means, when it comes to fruit juice? Yep.


edit: Some vegetables (and other natural things) also contain fructose, btw.
I believe fruit (and honey) is part fructose and part sucrose. I think there is a big difference between whole fruit and fruit juice. As with most things, the middle path is normally the best. I don't think it pays to be a fruit-a-phobe and avoid all fruit at all costs. There are lots of fruits, particularly berries, that have loads of health benefits. At the same time, no one should be eating 20 bananas a day as some morons actually do.
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My comment is that your shiny new signature is spam, and I'm not surprised at all. I can generally spot them a mile off, and yep, there ya go.
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I usually just stick to water. I also make my own juices with a juicer machine, even though its pretty expensive. But it's all natural and the only sugars you get are strictly what comes out of the fruit/ vegetables without the processing ingredients you get when you buy it in stores.
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MadScientist checking in. Sorry I haven't been here in awhile. My new little assistant is wearing me out. I still make it to the gym but just don't have the blog time with a full load of chemical engineering courses and a baby (yet still hit a 455 DL yesterday weighing 220).

So here we go on juice:

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When you are talking about juice I'm guessing you are talking about the cheap ones from the store that have more than 10 ingredients in them.

Using these too assumptions and all the research I did because my wife wanted to buy a juicer I will put in my two cents

1. The problem here isn't juice it is what we will call "juice." Most of them have more ingredients than fruit juice and water. They are flavored and colored and sweetened to make children want to drink a gallon a day. They make this "juice" because true fruit juice doesn't save for more than a week.

1b. Calories form natural sources are better for you than processed calories. Just compare home made burgers with real tomatoes, lettuce, and onions to McDondalds. To cite an article http://www.gnolls.org/3559/calorie-c...lorie-part-vi/. He is a big paleo guy (who made some crazy assumption about IF in one of the articles in this series that were crap) and I know some of you aren't that big on it but here you go.

2. Anything in excess is bad, except squats and bacon. You can literally drink enough water to flush out your electrolytes and it will kill you. Need I say more.

2b. Damn I want some bacon right now.

3. Processed food is the enemy not juice. I have yet to see a diet that was comprised of mostly processed food and was considered great for you.

4. Physical activity can make you healthy even with a bad diet. Most of the doctors I worked with (as a nurse aide) considered some one who exercised regularly, smoked, and drank healthier on average than someone who ate healthy but didn't work out.

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Lustig had a good presentation, fructose sucks, especially for sedentary people. However, one thing i'd like to mention is the concern of GMO's. Take a pile of sugar that's GMO and one that is GMO FREE, same fructose content, pretty sure that the first one is considerably worse. Also, since we active people here, fructose doesn't seem to matter much as we tend to use it. Stay under 50ish g fructose a day and your fine.
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