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Old 07-03-2013, 05:51 PM   #1
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Had my knees wrapped for the first time today during my max effort squat session. It was very awkward. I felt way off balance at first and also had trouble sitting back. I just couldn't seem to do it. I have the 2.5m red wraps from elitefts. They are supposed to be the least aggressive wrap "good for raw squatters". My training partner who wrapped my knees said that he was giving me a light wrap. It felt super tight to me, haha!

Has anyone else had this experience? What advice can any more experienced lifters offer aside from "just takes practice"? My PR with no wraps is 535, but 455 with wraps felt like 365 even though I was way forward and had awful form. So, I know I will get a great carryover from them once I can actually get down in the hole properly. How can I get better?

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Old 07-03-2013, 05:57 PM   #2
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They take a bit to get used to. Also, play with different wrapping styles and figure what you like best. I started wrapping earlier this year and its a great asset for the platform if done right. Also, they can and will hurt and be uncomfortable, regardless. You can YouTube all different ways top lifters wrap their knees.
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Nice. I don't mind the discomfort really. How long did it take you to get used to them?

I am thinking of wrapping my knees on all my squat sessions for a while until I get the hang of it.
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I've done a ton of experimenting with wraps over the last few months. I ended up creating my very own wrapping method that makes it extremely hard to bend my knees. Any time you use new supportive gear it's going to feel weird at first. The key is patience. not only patience to put in the practice to get used to it, but also patience to complete the lift itself. Take your time, use the right form and let the wraps do their job.

The first few times you squat in tight wraps you'll feel like your knees are going to be ripped apart. Be prepared for it. The way you wrap and the wraps that work best for you depend on how you squat. If you are someone who drops hard and uses rebound to get up then you'll need a looser wrap that places the bulk of the wrap directly behind your knee. You'll also want a wrap that has more bulk. Putting more wrap behind your knee will give lots of support to your knee right at the bottom without hindering your ability to drop faster.

If, on the other hand, you squat like I do and descend more slowly, slowing even more as you get to the bottom then exploding up, you're going to want a tight wrap that places more material on the front of the knee to increase support throughout the movement. This is generally referred to as a "cast like" wrap. The wrap itself is generally not as bulky, but that's less important than how you wrap.

If you think wraps help, you should try a squat suit! I feel like a machine with my suit and wraps on.
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I personally wouldn't wrap every session unless you're going all out all the time. I usually only use mine working up to around 80% or more of my wrapped max. It's like a belt, I try to use it sparingly and only when needed.
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I recommend guys get some tweener wraps. Rickey Dale Crain has some supportive wraps that are not as stiff. I used these for a year before diving into some serious powerlifting wraps. They provided enough support for me to feel a big difference, but weren't difficult to get used to.
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Definitely. I got my first wraps from Rogue as an afterthought along with a bar I was ordering. I still use these for training because they aren't as hardcore, then when it comes time for heavier lifts I move to my Titan THP's. The THP's are harder to wrap and far more uncomfortable, but it's totally worth it when I pop back up.

I'd recommend using your wraps for any heavier weights for a couple weeks to really get the hang of it, then backing off and doing work both with and without the wraps. I'm used to them now, so even when I haven't been training with them I can throw them on for a heavy set and they won't through me off too much.
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Glad the knee/elbow wrap topic came about, when it did. I've a question of my own.

A belt supports mostly muscle where wraps support mostly joints.

Are the wraps really that similar to belts in that belt use can be justified at almost any level?
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Definitely. I got my first wraps from Rogue as an afterthought along with a bar I was ordering. I still use these for training because they aren't as hardcore, then when it comes time for heavier lifts I move to my Titan THP's. The THP's are harder to wrap and far more uncomfortable, but it's totally worth it when I pop back up.

I'd recommend using your wraps for any heavier weights for a couple weeks to really get the hang of it, then backing off and doing work both with and without the wraps. I'm used to them now, so even when I haven't been training with them I can throw them on for a heavy set and they won't through me off too much.
After reading this I'm feeling wraps are more comparable to a slingshot rather than a belt because they aid in overload?
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I recommend guys get some tweener wraps. Rickey Dale Crain has some supportive wraps that are not as stiff. I used these for a year before diving into some serious powerlifting wraps. They provided enough support for me to feel a big difference, but weren't difficult to get used to.
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Guys, what about just some cheapo wraps from sports authority or something like that? Anyone used something like that?
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