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Old 05-16-2014, 01:13 PM   #1611
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That's a very good question. My OHP was around 70% of my bench, give or take.

The first thing I would probably have you do is work with more reps. Give them a try, maybe 3 sets with 135 for as many reps as possible. When you can hit 25 reps total for all three sets (not 25 per set), then add 5 pounds. Start focusing on adding at least one rep per week.

By pushing sets for as many reps as possible, you will be recruiting more fibers, and hopefully building more strength.

Secondly, I would try a form of dumbbell overheads after your barbells. Either Arnolds or one or two arm overhead presses. Do about 10 rep sets.

Give this combo a try for 6 months and see if it pays off.
Sounds good, will give it a try and see. Thanks BTB.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:19 PM   #1612
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Sure, give them a try. As long as you are progressing they will serve you well.
ok thanks i've been using the parallel grip on the lat pull down and it feels amazing man. btw i wanted to ask you this sooner but i forgot lo i know that on the HLM site you put legs as the first exercise but what do you think of starting a full body workout with the upper body instead? many guys like steve reeves or leroy colbert followed that philosophy. i'd like to know your personal opinion steve
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I really interested in get more knowledgeable in powerlifting. Ive been using the conjugate method but feel its not the most optimal program for what im trying to accomplish.Im training raw and completely natural and feel that all the max effort work is not giving me the proper recovery I need.Ive been looking in to block periodization what do you suggest?
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Hi Steve, Since watching your youtube vids I've been focusing on pushing for progression for the past 9 months now and have improved massively on all my lifts which is great and have put on a little bit of muscle in the process.

However i've run into a problem, yesterday for the first time ever i felt my shoulder twinge on the overhead press, I didnt do anything i wouldnt normally do in a shoulder workout but today it hurts quite a lot when i twist it or push it in a particular angle and i'm pretty sure i cant do any sort of exercise now until it has healed.

Since this little episode i'm now very paranoid about lifting heavy on my shoulders (usually do between 5-10 reps on overhead presses).

So my question is, since I dont want to lift very heavy on shoulders anymore and risk another injury, can i still make progress without forcing my muscles to push such heavy weight? If so what would you recommend i do to continue making good progress for muscle gain? My delts are also a lagging bodypart which doesnt help so i always go as heavy as i can whilst maintaining decent form.

I was never a huge fan of lifting heavy I just did it because i thought it would be the best way to force my body to adapt to stress and build muscle, but since i dont really want to lift heavy anymore I dont know what to do from this point on...
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ok thanks i've been using the parallel grip on the lat pull down and it feels amazing man. btw i wanted to ask you this sooner but i forgot lo i know that on the HLM site you put legs as the first exercise but what do you think of starting a full body workout with the upper body instead? many guys like steve reeves or leroy colbert followed that philosophy. i'd like to know your personal opinion steve
You can do squats least. I like to go from big lifts to small lifts, but in the case of squats, I can see why it's enjoyable to hit them on the way out of the gym.
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I really interested in get more knowledgeable in powerlifting. Ive been using the conjugate method but feel its not the most optimal program for what im trying to accomplish.Im training raw and completely natural and feel that all the max effort work is not giving me the proper recovery I need.Ive been looking in to block periodization what do you suggest?
What are your current strength levels for the 3 lifts, as well as your height, weight and age?
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Hi Steve, Since watching your youtube vids I've been focusing on pushing for progression for the past 9 months now and have improved massively on all my lifts which is great and have put on a little bit of muscle in the process.
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However i've run into a problem, yesterday for the first time ever i felt my shoulder twinge on the overhead press, I didnt do anything i wouldnt normally do in a shoulder workout but today it hurts quite a lot when i twist it or push it in a particular angle and i'm pretty sure i cant do any sort of exercise now until it has healed.
Tell me more about the variation...seated, standing, behind the neck, front? If you can, get a video of you using just the bar (or a broomstick) and show me how this lift looks. I might be able to point out if something is wrong.

Also note that injuries are part of the game. They are part of the process. We have to learn from them, improve form, and maybe tweak variations to see if it helps.

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So my question is, since I dont want to lift very heavy on shoulders anymore and risk another injury,
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No.

There are no big and relatively weak natural lifters. I wish it were otherwise, but that's the reality. Part of the game is learning from mistakes and improving form. Even when doing so, you can't avoid injuries.

No matter how you train, there has to be progression involved.
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Deadlift (440) Squat (430) Bench (320).Im 23 5'11 195lbs.I would really like to focus on building a bigger squat and deadlift.

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Quick question to you Steve:
Any recommendations for a book or an author on nutrition for natural lifters?

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Quick question to you Steve:
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Good question, and yes...

Check this out:

http://www.muscleandbrawn.com/forums...ead.php?t=4289
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