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Old 01-15-2013, 02:58 PM   #31
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So hitting it hard on squat day along with some AMAP sets for assistance, then AMAP squatting as assistance on deadlift day sound like a plan of attack guys?
Hard but reasonable. You don't want to overdo intense work. Better to do a reasonable amount and do it frequently in my opinion. Meaning don't go in and try to do a ton of 90% singles each session.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:59 PM   #32
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Dude, I had the same problem. It got to a point where I couldn't really even get to depth by sitting back. Not real depth at least

I got the olympic shoes, starting sitting down, and now depth isn't an issue at all.

As for forward leaning, bar placement does play a huge role. I still squat with a relatively low bar (more "medium" not anything) and have a slight lean. You'll notice the guy in the video does have a lean. In my opinion, forward leans to that extent are fine in PL. However, high bar is great, has better carry over to olympic lifting, and in my opinion just looks better. Glad I could help a bit.

Another bit I might add for bringing your squat up. If you're going to switch to this style, focus on your front squat a little bit as well. What is your front squat number compared to back squat?
To be honest I have not front squatted in a while. Never maxed it either, but I would guess it is in the range of 60-65%.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:00 PM   #33
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So hitting it hard on squat day along with some AMAP sets for assistance, then AMAP squatting as assistance on deadlift day sound like a plan of attack guys?
I like to start high rep ranges for sets and work down over a matter of weeks for progression. I like to vary my stance, use pause squats, and ATG type squats for my squat variations. Just how I like to do things.
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Hard but reasonable. You don't want to overdo intense work. Better to do a reasonable amount and do it frequently in my opinion. Meaning don't go in and try to do a ton of 90% singles each session.
Yeah my plan was along the lines of week 1 3x3 at 85%, week 2 4x2 at 90%, and week 3 5x1 at 95% for the work sets.
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Yeah my plan was along the lines of week 1 3x3 at 85%, week 2 4x2 at 90%, and week 3 5x1 at 95% for the work sets.
That would be fine IF, and that is a big IF. You work down to that from a much higher rep range over the course of several weeks. Most powerlifters dont like to hear this, but I think at your current levels you need several weeks of sets in the 6-10 ranges to keep building a base of strength.

Keep in mind that there are tons of ways to get stronger, might take some time to find what is right for you.
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That would be fine IF, and that is a big IF. You work down to that from a much higher rep range over the course of several weeks. Most powerlifters dont like to hear this, but I think at your current levels you need several weeks of sets in the 6-10 ranges to keep building a base of strength.

Keep in mind that there are tons of ways to get stronger, might take some time to find what is right for you.
So JB in your opinion doing the work sets that I outlined above along with say 3 AMAP sets in the 60-70% range for assistance work is "putting the cart before the horse"?

I ran the Reeves program for quite a while, and to be honest I hated the 8-12 rep range work! Can't say if it's my body that doesn't respond to that range or my mind is too lazy for that rep range haha!
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To be honest I have not front squatted in a while. Never maxed it either, but I would guess it is in the range of 60-65%.
60-65 is actually pretty good. Mine started closer to 50%. I've heard, and this is mostly just broscience, that your front squat should be about 75% of your back squat. However, 60-65 is actually really good, congrats.
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60-65 is actually pretty good. Mine started closer to 50%. I've heard, and this is mostly just broscience, that your front squat should be about 75% of your back squat. However, 60-65 is actually really good, congrats.
Thanks, but more than likely mine is that close because my back squat sux so bad lol! I'm on deload this week, but today is dead day so I can practice a little with the form tips you gave me on sitting down vs back and see how it feels with a light load!
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Thanks, but more than likely mine is that close because my back squat sux so bad lol! I'm on deload this week, but today is dead day so I can practice a little with the form tips you gave me on sitting down vs back and see how it feels with a light load!
That's an excellent idea. Technique practice is what really gets you big numbers.

And your squat is well over 300 lbs, hardly "sucks."
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That's an excellent idea. Technique practice is what really gets you big numbers.

And your squat is well over 300 lbs, hardly "sucks."
Thanks big guy I appreciate your help today
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