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Old 12-07-2012, 04:04 PM   #11
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I guess out really depends on training styles.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:23 PM   #12
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It works as a unit, stop messing with it.
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with my minimal experience i say train the body as a whole with compound exercises.Just my 2p worth.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:00 PM   #13
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with my minimal experience i say train the body as a whole with compound exercises.Just my 2p worth.
Unable to reach my goal that way, next....
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I don't get breaking them up in this way at all.

To goal (to me) is to look wide (from the front/back) and thick (from the side).

Wide = back (traps, too), shoulders, quads
Thick = chest, back (to an extent), hammies

I don't see the need to separate traps from your back.
You and I agree. Wide and thick.
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I don't get breaking them up in this way at all.

To goal (to me) is to look wide (from the front/back) and thick (from the side).

Wide = back (traps, too), shoulders, quads
Thick = chest, back (to an extent), hammies

I don't see the need to separate traps from your back.
Good post.

I don't general view them as different. I tend to group rear delts with pulling movements too.
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T NATION | The 11 Body Part Split

Latest article at T-Nation has an interesting break down of primary, secondary and detail muscles for muscle building:


Primary: Back, chest, quadriceps
Secondary: Hamstrings, shoulders, triceps, biceps
Detail: Abdominals, traps, forearms, calves

Agree? Disagree? Any changes you would make?
Primary: Back, chest, quadriceps, shoulders
Secondary: Hamstrings, triceps, abdominals
Detail: Traps, forearms, calves, biceps

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:05 PM   #18
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I understand the division. I look at my training as such, primary (main) and secondary (accessory) lifts, not body parts.
I agree with both. The body is a whole and one thing doesn't work well without the other. It performs as a unit and looks good as a unit.

How can one say working their core is not a primary when most of the time heavy squatting fails due to lack of core strength not quad strength. People fold like a sheet of paper at the waist with too much forward lean cuz their abs are weak compared to quads.

Or even from a symetrical point of view for a body builder....a chest and shoulders don't look good without arms or quads don't look good without hammies or glutes.

Now from my own training style i agree with with gasp. I tend to train compounds first then iso's as secondary. But for me its mearly to limit joint pain from overuse.
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