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Old 09-29-2012, 12:45 PM   #21
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Didnt he just go over 2k raw?

Do agree with the rest of that though.
I wasn't aware. Link?
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:55 PM   #22
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I wasn't aware. Link?
Was actually 2100+. There is another video floating around of him doing 575(i think) last week in the bench raw.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:22 PM   #23
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^ I stand corrected regarding him being a gear-whore. I still think his lifting logic is flawed, based on those Facebook posts.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:57 PM   #24
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^ I stand corrected regarding him being a gear-whore. I still think his lifting logic is flawed, based on those Facebook posts.
You should see some of the stuff he posts. Knows what he is doing with training, I think he says crazy stuff like that just for the online hits.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:49 PM   #25
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The dude just shows a lighter side, granted he does seem a bit off in the head...but his training is spot on, I know several that are using his cube method that have been getting crazy results. Not riding his coat tail, just stating what I know personally.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #26
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Disagree. Unless you're a multi-ply gear-whore like Lilly, anyone can leg press more than they squat. Even if you're one of those guys, you should STILL be able to leg press more than you squat. Also, unless you're doing shrugs from the floor, anyone can (and should) shrug more than they deadlift.
Really? If you can't respect other lifters, who work damn hard like you, lift on the same platform as you, and go through (or have gone through)most of the same shit as you, why should any lifters respect you?

I have a hard time looking positively on anyone that would tear our sport apart by being an elitist over the damn gear vs raw debate.

Some people lift geared, some people don't. We have different classes, standards, and even entirely different feds. Get over it.
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^ I stand corrected regarding him being a gear-whore. I still think his lifting logic is flawed, based on those Facebook posts.
Everyone's lifting logic has a bias towards their own upbringing(who/where they were around as a novice) and experiences as they progress. We are all different, so there is no flawless lifting logic.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:02 PM   #27
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Really? If you can't respect other lifters, who work damn hard like you, lift on the same platform as you, and go through (or have gone through)most of the same shit as you, why should any lifters respect you?

I have a hard time looking positively on anyone that would tear our sport apart by being an elitist over the damn gear vs raw debate.

Some people lift geared, some people don't. We have different classes, standards, and even entirely different feds. Get over it.



Everyone's lifting logic has a bias towards their own upbringing(who/where they were around as a novice) and experiences as they progress. We are all different, so there is no flawless lifting logic.
Yeah, I should've been less critical of him, but at the same time, I honestly couldn't care less what the equipped guys are doing. Those numbers mean nothing to me. I'm sure they probably feel the same way about the lower raw numbers. Whatever.
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Yeah, I should've been less critical of him, but at the same time, I honestly couldn't care less what the equipped guys are doing. Those numbers mean nothing to me. I'm sure they probably feel the same way about the lower raw numbers. Whatever.
I cant speak for all of us gear whores out there, but I am always interested in what guys do raw. Doesnt matter what style of lifting, I just enjoy lifting. I think the divide hurts the sport more than anything.
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The dude just shows a lighter side, granted he does seem a bit off in the head...but his training is spot on, I know several that are using his cube method that have been getting crazy results. Not riding his coat tail, just stating what I know personally.
I have read a little about what he does. Actually makes good sense. Its more of an old school style of training (think more like Kaz) with higher reps. He rotates ME Bench, 2board work, close grip as his main bench movements. He also does a lot of over head pressing stuff.

The worse part about this injury is not being able to see how far I could have pushed him at the XPC meet. Maybe next year!
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I cant speak for all of us gear whores out there, but I am always interested in what guys do raw. Doesnt matter what style of lifting, I just enjoy lifting. I think the divide hurts the sport more than anything.
Interesting how its usually the raw guys and their lower numbers that seem to be the ones starting the divide. I've COMPETED in both so I know how hard it is to get the gear to work for you.

I'v been a client of Brandon's and email him from time to time. It sounds to me like he's breaking balls. People should stop getting their panties in a wad.
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