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Old 09-03-2012, 04:27 PM   #11
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This is VAT (Value Added Tax) which is added to all consumer products in the UK. Previously protein supplementation came under the neccesary food category, and was exempt from tax. However the new government has decided to shift it from food to consumer product. The only possible way this can be seen as acceptable in the (general) public eye is to try and play on the fears and prejudices of the average man on the street. That excessive protein leads to health issues and anger problems, muddying the waters between protein/creatine and illegal steroids even further to the layman.

This is a very transparent attempt at diversion, but it will pass and people will start talking about anger issues and health issues from excessive protein in due course. I predict Jeremy Kyle will have someone on his show within a years time who has gotten in trouble with the law over 'protein rage'.
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Never really thought about it ( I order from amazon) but CA taxes protein supplements.
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British Dietetic Association = union.
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I think a quick way to solve this is take to find a large percentages of powerlifters/weightlifters/bodybuilders who are have this kidney failure.
Kidney Disease
(Data are for the U.S.)



Morbidity
Number of noninstitutionalized adults with diagnosed kidney disease: 3.9 million
Percent of noninstitutionalized adults with diagnosed kidney disease: 1.7%
Source: Summary Health Statistics for U.S. Adults: National Health Interview Survey, 2010, tables 7, 8 [PDF - 1.3 MB]



Mortality
Number of deaths from nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,935
Deaths per 100,000 population: 15.9
Cause of death rank: 9
Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2009, tables 9, 10, 11 [PDF - 2.1 MB]

Diagnosed and undiagnosed diabetes among people aged 20 years or older, United States, 2010
Age 20 years or older: 25.6 million, or 11.3% of all people in this age group, have diabetes.

Age 65 years or older: 10.9 million, or 26.9% of all people in this age group, have diabetes.
Men: 13.0 million, or 11.8% of all men aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.

Women: 12.6 million, or 10.8% of all women aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.

Non-Hispanic whites: 15.7 million, or 10.2% of all non-Hispanic whites aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.

Non-Hispanic blacks: 4.9 million, or 18.7% of all non-Hispanic blacks aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.
Total: 25.8 million people, or 8.3% of the U.S. population, have diabetes.

Diagnosed: 18.8 million people

Undiagnosed: 7.0 million people

7th leading cause of death (based on diabetes deaths alone not counting contributing conditions such as CVD and hypertension, stroke)


High protein is not a problem in people with healthy organs. Perhaps they can tackle the larger issues before running to demonize proteins.
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It's a terrible article, but that doesn't necessarily mean the conclusion is wrong. I would want to see more about what it was based on before dismissing it.

I think weightlifters (me included) are guilty of believing those things that are convenient, or what they want to hear.
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