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Old 05-29-2010, 11:45 PM   #21
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Hey love! I personally very much like Westside... I think if you did this or even Wendler's program you would do well... I did 5/3/1 and WS4SB and I loved both programs. Depends on what works best for you... Whichever you try - make a solid go of it and don't try subbing because it worked for person a until you get a solid base... both programs offer plenty of rest to recoup those muscles and give it everything you have!
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wow, how did i miss this one? oh yeah, been busy trying to get a business going.

Westside is awesome. You can manipulate it to fit your needs and keep the basics the same.
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This is a very good argument. There are a lot of methods bias to the geared lifter, but they are beneficial to the unsupported lifter just as much if the proper modifications are made.

A lot of experience and tinkering with bands and how to set things up is another inconvenience/disadvantage. HOWEVER, if you take the time to get it right, you will kill it each time.

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Westside has some great ideas and concepts, but is ideal for the "geared" lifter and not the best for raw lifters or beginning raw power-lifters.

Speed work aka Dynamic Effort, Week to Week Max Effort via Louie's "Conjugate" Method and specialized assistance work don't have the same effect for people who don't have a accurate representation of a one rep max, and haven't lifted one rep maxes long enough to establish a sticking point due to accommodating leverages and muscle imbalances over lack of technique.

Lifting a bar fast, if you haven't developed good stabilization and form will have little carry over in the long run and the same goes for maxing out each week with bad form.

I call this my longevity plan for those who want to be strong in powerlifting for a lifetime, however it doesn't work good for duel competitors as well. Not really for you Sneezy but for beginners I would recommend something like this and its easier just to write it here then copy and paste to the beginners forum.

I would suggest a basic 5x5 starting strength type program for the first month,Max out the 5th week, deload the 6th and do wendler's 5/3/1 for the next 1-3 months, and then based on the next 1rep max attempts until failure, where ever the final failures resided then inter-grade westside.
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