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Old 05-08-2014, 07:14 AM   #41
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Mrs Moeheeps NO STOP gibbering about her day as a school bus driver.....THAT, my friends, will make you all out SPRINT to the gym.....NOTHING will make you want to train more than that!
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Its an individual preference. If you workout tired, they can help due to the stimulants/caffeine. Other have added creatine if you like to use that and also some have ingredients for "pump" effect and increasing vascularity. for me, I'm quite caffeine tolerant unfortunately which is why I 've using K-Otic which has a bit higher amount of caffeine in it compared to a number of other pre's out there.
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IMO, They're worth it if you respond well to caffeine. From what I can tell, they are mostly just caffeine mixed with other somewhat effective nootropics. Some of them have creatine and beta alanine, both proven performance enhancers but are needed to be taken everyday to be effective so they are probably best purchased separately. PWOs tend to underdose them as well. As far as the vascularity and pump products there is yet to be a study proving their effectiveness. A lot of the ingredients (arginine, agmatine, norvaline)should increase "pump" in theory, but don't actually produce results. I mean a "pump" is a dilated blood vessel, which is a lowering in ones blood pressure, and the body has pretty good mechanisms for regulating that kind of thing.

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Jacked Micro (has Higenamine)
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A new and interesting ingredient worth looking into is AMP Citrate.

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