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Old 09-21-2013, 08:22 AM   #31
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Im with you Josh. I say put it to use and base it of of real world results. I know what works for me and will continue to use it. If I can drop 40lbs and maintain a 450 to 500 bench, Im sticking with it.

Not attempting to be an ass anyone, I can maintain strength and mass while dropping excess weight with this approach. Its easy for me to follow and to be truthful I enjoy this format of "diet". Thank You Good Night.....
That's interesting to me. Jamie Lewis also maintains/develops awesome strength while carb depleted with his apex predator diet. My squat dropped 100lb in 2 weeks when I was only eating carbs once a week!

"We're all different", etc, etc. It's frustrating as hell though!
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:52 AM   #32
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That's interesting to me. Jamie Lewis also maintains/develops awesome strength while carb depleted with his apex predator diet. My squat dropped 100lb in 2 weeks when I was only eating carbs once a week!

"We're all different", etc, etc. It's frustrating as hell though!
I had the same problem before as well Soldier. I was then told to increase my fat intake dramatically and guess what, it worked.

Im not arguing the fact that there needs to be a deficit. Im just saying that the macro manipulation (Low Carb/High Protein/High Fat) has enabled me to meet my goals without cannibalizing muscle mass and strength. With this approach (and meeting my deficit) I have no cravings and enables me to reach satiety. If I were able to eat anything in a buffet free for all i would be 600lbs, low carb or not. As with any meal plan you need to practice restraint and discipline.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:05 AM   #33
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I had the same problem before as well Soldier. I was then told to increase my fat intake dramatically and guess what, it worked.

Im not arguing the fact that there needs to be a deficit. Im just saying that the macro manipulation (Low Carb/High Protein/High Fat) has enabled me to meet my goals without cannibalizing muscle mass and strength. With this approach (and meeting my deficit) I have no cravings and enables me to reach satiety. If I were able to eat anything in a buffet free for all i would be 600lbs, low carb or not. As with any meal plan you need to practice restraint and discipline.
I agree with you, totally. I've actually read that, about making sure to get enough fat. I was, trust me! I think that when I tried to increase my fat compared to protein I also added considerably to the calories I was eating. I stopped losing weight, but still didn't increase my energy/strength. I was getting lots of fat from eggs, cheese, and my favorite low carb meal, homemade deep fried WINGS!!! God, I'm slobbering now just thinking about my wings.
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:21 PM   #35
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3) All calories are created equal, all macronutrients are not (think about it, there's a difference)
This was one of the wisest statemtents made in this thread.

Okay, so who wants to be the guinea pig? One whole week eating 2000 calories totally composed of Kit-Kat Bars. I predict that you will indeed lose weight, not from eating at a deficit, but from the day or two in a sugar coma or consecutive days of puking after eating all that sugar. Anyeone up to give it a try? Come on, if calories are calories, burn some for MAB science.
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This was one of the wisest statemtents made in this thread.

Okay, so who wants to be the guinea pig? One whole week eating 2000 calories totally composed of Kit-Kat Bars. I predict that you will indeed lose weight, not from eating at a deficit, but from the day or two in a sugar coma or consecutive days of puking after eating all that sugar. Anyeone up to give it a try? Come on, if calories are calories, burn some for MAB science.
Hahaha!

Chocolate in excess can be dangerous, and certainly can cause puking due to some bodily reaction, I watched a program about a French woman (skinny gal) that consumed massive bars daily of the 70%+ stuff, she had to stop doing so, otherwise it would have killed her.

Chocolate aside, not a bad idea...though the 2000 cals in carbs could be quite a task, easier for the fat consumer (maybe ), and probably a whole lot more enjoyable for the protein group which I think may be the biggest group that step forward for the challenge/test.
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