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Old 09-02-2013, 08:02 PM   #381
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Got to give you mad props for getting in there and doing good work with all the issues! Really hope you get the knee problem figured out soon!

Sounds like the Chantix side effects are a pain in the butt too! I put my chew down 3 years ago cold turkey and never looked back. It sucked for the first week, but after that it was pretty easy. No side effects from cold turkey that I noticed. And I had been dipping/chewing for 30+ years. Good luck and be strong. You will make it if you want to.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:56 AM   #382
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Big 3 (or 4) PRs - rep PRs included - are always good, so maybe not that bad a session after all...?

Sorry to hear about the pain and related difficulties, however. I know much of it is ongoing, and yep, that's probably going to continue making things more difficult than they really oughta be.

So, all in all, kudos. Making progress, in the face of whatever may come: that's what it's all about.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:12 AM   #383
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Getting a lot stronger in here Jay.
Had knee pain for a long time. Changed my squat(deeper, foot placement, knee path) while incorporating lots of mobility work months later their fine.
Keep Hammering out them PR's
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:57 AM   #384
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You got the important stuff done, that's all that really matters at this point. Great Smashing despite the bad knees.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:46 AM   #385
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Nice squats despite the pain.


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Nice squats Hunter. Not seeing your mythical gut. Still looking healthy.
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Knee wraps are also my newest best friend. I actually know the feeling about the 135 miss Jay - except mine was with a deadlift. Yep, at the height of my ill health last winter, 135 was welded to the floor once. I get it how much health means to our lifting. I truly hope you can manage to find some health somewhere somehow Jay.

Certainly, nobody can nor will ever question your effort. Impressed at how you did your squats today, both with reps and form.
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Form looks decent. Hope you get this knee issue sorted. Did it first start with wide stance and now is still carrying over?
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Got to give you mad props for getting in there and doing good work with all the issues! Really hope you get the knee problem figured out soon!

Sounds like the Chantix side effects are a pain in the butt too! I put my chew down 3 years ago cold turkey and never looked back. It sucked for the first week, but after that it was pretty easy. No side effects from cold turkey that I noticed. And I had been dipping/chewing for 30+ years. Good luck and be strong. You will make it if you want to.
Thanks Rich! Yea, main thing is I only partly want to quit , still enjoy it even though it's bad and disgusting bla bla bla!

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Big 3 (or 4) PRs - rep PRs included - are always good, so maybe not that bad a session after all...?

Sorry to hear about the pain and related difficulties, however. I know much of it is ongoing, and yep, that's probably going to continue making things more difficult than they really oughta be.

So, all in all, kudos. Making progress, in the face of whatever may come: that's what it's all about.
Thanks Dray! No it was still a bad session!

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Getting a lot stronger in here Jay.
Had knee pain for a long time. Changed my squat(deeper, foot placement, knee path) while incorporating lots of mobility work months later their fine.
Keep Hammering out them PR's
Thanks OMP! Boss is coming down and maybe he'll spot something, but seems my from is good, sooooo???

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You got the important stuff done, that's all that really matters at this point. Great Smashing despite the bad knees.
Thanks OR! I got something done vs skipping the day, that was the best thing I did, or maybe it wasn't !

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(Few Notes... Before I started I took some Ibuprofen, which basically did F'ing nothing! My knees have felt ok the last few days until last night. My right knee felt like I was being stabbed below my kneecap, left knee was tiny bit sore. I did nothing that would have caused my knees to get bad either! Anyhow I'm tired of skipping whole workouts and my legs will never grow if I'm sitting on my ass all the time!!!
Also, I've been taking Chantix again to help me stop chewing. I took it years ago and it helped with minor side effects. This time the side effects are kicking my ass! Sleep issues(like I don't have enough), feel sick all the time, my heads way worse and sex and lifting escalate my pain way more than when I wasn't on it, I gained a bunch of weight and I'm bloated(see my vids and look at my gut , my neck hurts 24/7 like it's a bad back pump feeling, joint pain and discomfort, and crazy ass dreams! But this is day 3 no chew at all, so I guess maybe it's helping, but not like last time. Needless to say I'm one crabby F'ing ahole!!! ) Ok stupid long boring life story that no one will probably read... over!
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135x 1 ...got pinned, wish I was lying! Got to about 3/4 down bb squat depth jk bb guys, and felt like a spike went threw my knee and I dropped like a dive bomber! FARK!!!
Added Wraps
135x 5 ...hurt some but actually once I got going it was less painful!
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215x 9 PR ...vid. +10lbs, same reps. Did better with wrap support/help. Pushed myself as hard as I could.
215x 8 PR ...vid. +10lb, +2 reps. Same sh!t, once I got going it hurt less til I stopped! Had a back pump from hell here and my head really got bad part way through the set. Think you can see in the vid, around the 4th rep, where I move my head weird, that's where my pain said quit you F'ing idiot!
215x 7 PR ...vid. +10lbs, + 2 reps. Gave it all I had for my last set. Actually still planned on trying to do the rest of my workout moron, but my head and knees together was too much! I suck!
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Laying Leg Curls
Skipped, I suck lots!
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Leg Press
Skipped, I suck lots more!!!
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52.5 seconds PR ...lol, didn't get to find out how many sets I should have done, but didn't matter anyhow, after that I was done! Went longer than I thought I could, figured maybe 30-35 seconds! But I did a tiny bit of ab work, so it's something!
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Done! 45 minutes total. Long session for hardly doing crap! Had I actually done the whole session, even if I cut the weights to half of last time, I think it would have taken 2 hours! While I disappointed in not completing the session, at least I did something instead of skipping another leg day/squat session! I know I suck, but at least in my mind no one can say I'm not trying my hardest! Not much of a consolation, but I have to look for any little positive I can, small as it may be!
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Hope that knee stops barking. PR's were made anyways.
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:21 AM   #387
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Boss is coming down and maybe he'll spot something, but seems my from is good, sooooo???



The Big Man I'm sure will figure it out.

Joint pain doesn't happen overnight likewise if you have made appropriate changes then it will take time for the knees to recover.
Watching your squats again you seem to be a bit uncomfortable in the hole can you identify whats going on? Shifting weight forward on feet, Hip & ankle mobility come to mind as areas to look into.
Then you have muscle tightness & imbalance to consider which hamstrings are likely the culprit.
You can systematically put in place work to fix these potential problems without knowing exactly what it is. Mobility work isn't going to take away from your training and an emphasizing Hamstring work is a minimal variable to cover the bases.
The above approach will fix most probable causes, however if its arthritic in nature or chemistry related then that's a completely different challenge.
I can offer you some stretches if you want to approach it in general, just let me know.
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Old 09-03-2013, 02:23 PM   #388
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Something...anything...is always better than nothing Jay....hats off to you for doing what you could when feeling even worse than usual!!
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Hope you get well soon bro. You did some great work despite the bad circumstances and that's a win.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:36 PM   #390
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Hang in there big bad Jay! Just keep doing what you can. Even through the adversity you still destroy PRs. Inspirational. There are talkers and doers, you are a doer.
I used to chew. Quitting fucking sucked! Way worse than anything I ever stopped, and I used to be a hard drug user... The thing about quiting chew is that you become an edgy angry bastard. Hang in there, I will say a prayer for you tonight, it will get better after a few days.

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