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Old 05-21-2013, 08:12 AM   #11
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The only reason I didn't suggest Texas Method / Bill Starr / Madcow is because of this:

"I also stopped enjoying it and want to focus on both gaining strength AND bodybuilding esk training."

Not sure if some other posters might have missed that bit...?
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:07 AM   #12
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What he's saying is that your squat is strong enough now that your recovery ability can't keep up with squatting three times a week. To continue to squat heavy three times a week will cause further stalls and even regression. Don't keep banging your head against the wall, it's time to use the Heavy/Medium/Light method and keep that progress moving forward. It's NOT a change of routine, it's a more complex progression plan that you are ready for.
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I hurt myself really badly because I didn't evolve from Starting Strength when I should of. It's a great routine, but I think if one is going to push it too far they need a coach there watching them and telling them when to back off, when form is breaking down, etc. And that is simply not an option for 99% of us.
I never used the texas method, but it seems like a very prudent next step. You could also do Madcow 5x5. I did that routine, it was good, although when I compare it to the texas method I will admit the texas method is more appealing on paper.
If you are interested in a more "bodybuilder" type approach you could try a 3 day a week Heavy/Light/Medium full body. I actually have one specifically in mind if you are interested in the link.
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Thanks for the input guys. I really appriciate it. I think im going to do a texas method type of training methodology where i would do a bodybuilding/light/heavy. Something like yt: watch?v=v6xqPWhpZb0
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I actually have one specifically in mind if you are interested in the link.
Yea man that would be great
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The workout I am referring to is the second workout described in the article linked above, "The 20 Rep Squat HLM Full Body Workout". I've done it and I thought it was a great approach. There are also some other good full body routines in that article.
Let me know if you have any questions.

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To be honest, as I look at the routine, I kind of would like to do it again!
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The workout I am referring to is the second workout described in the article linked above, "The 20 Rep Squat HLM Full Body Workout". I've done it and I thought it was a great approach. There are also some other good full body routines in that article.
Let me know if you have any questions.

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To be honest, as I look at the routine, I kind of would like to do it again!
I like the sound of that one, too. Widow makers on squats are brutal.
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Squat 95lbs -> 225lbs
Deadlift 135lbs -> 285lbs
Bench 60lbs -> 135lbs
OHP 50lbs -> 95lbs

The numbers are my working sets. Squats,bench,OHP are 3x5 and Deadlift is 1x5
havent tested my maxes yet

I'm sure you could get higher numbers out of the novice program.
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