Muscle and Brawn Forums
 

Go Back   Muscle and Brawn Forums > Supplements, Nutrition & Diet > Nutrition, Diet and Supplements

Notices

Nutrition, Diet and Supplements Discuss nutrition, diet, cutting and weight loss. Supplement discussions as well.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-13-2014, 09:16 AM   #1
BendtheBar
BendtheBar
is getting skinny(ish)
Bearded Beast of Duloc
Max Brawn
Points: 1,518,552, Level: 100 Points: 1,518,552, Level: 100 Points: 1,518,552, Level: 100
Activity: 56% Activity: 56% Activity: 56%
 
BendtheBar's Avatar
 
Extreme Mini Golf Champion!Tournaments Won: 6

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 80,471
Training Exp: 20+ years
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: Butter
My Mood: Lurking
Reputation: 2569533
BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!
Default A calorie is a calorie

Is a calorie just a calorie?

What do you say?


__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Destroy That Which Destroys You

"Let bravery be thy choice, but not bravado."


BendtheBar is online now   Reply With Quote


Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Old 03-13-2014, 09:54 AM   #2
Squatter
Squatter
is a Crazy Canuck
Squatatron
Max Brawn
Points: 27,152, Level: 97 Points: 27,152, Level: 97 Points: 27,152, Level: 97
Activity: 79% Activity: 79% Activity: 79%
 
Squatter's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: JimGym/CrewGym
Posts: 9,900
Training Exp: 20 Years
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Squat & Deadlift
Fav Supp: Collagen
My Mood: Happy
Reputation: 719717
Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!Squatter is one with Crom!
Default

In so far as being in a deficit to cut or surplus to bulk, perhaps, but certainly not for health, especially when age ids factored in. The younger guys can get away with alot more than the older ones.

For me, lifting follows health, period.
__________________
My Favorite Part Of Lifting Is Having The Opportunity
Meet PR's: (May 2014)
Squat 475 lbs
Bench: 275 lbs
Deadlift: 501 lbs
Total: 1251 lbs
Age: 50

Gym PR's:
Squat: 495 lbs
Bench: 295 lbs
Deadlift: 510 lbs
Total: 1300 Lbs
Age 50
Squatter is offline   Reply With Quote


1 members found this post helpful.
Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 10:12 AM   #3
bamazav
bamazav
Dog House Training, home of the WalkerDips!Geezers Rule!
Bigger, Stronger, BAMA!
Max Brawn
Points: 26,377, Level: 97 Points: 26,377, Level: 97 Points: 26,377, Level: 97
Activity: 12% Activity: 12% Activity: 12%
 
bamazav's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 4,887
Training Exp: 5
Training Type: ARGH!!!
Fav Exercise: Squats
Fav Supp: Deadlifts
My Mood: Amazed
Reputation: 221474
bamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master memberbamazav is a master member


Default

I agree with Squatter. It depends on what you are using the calories for. The 150 calories from an 8 oz serving of Dr. Pepper is vastly different than the 150 calories from a piece of fish. The Dr. Pepper is void of nutritional value while the fish gives you far more for the caloric value. I usually hear the "calorie is a calorie" argument from people who want to rationalize their poor food choices. If I had to choose between 2000 calories of Snickers and 2000 calories of meats and veggies, I will choose the latter. I will feel fuller and I won't be puking or worse from all the sugar in the Snickers.

Just my 2 cents.
__________________
David, Husband, Father, Pastor
(Yasen Miroslav Zavadil)

2014 100%RAW American Challenge, May 31, 2014:
Squat 292
Bench 176
Deadlift 375 PR
Total - 843 at 50 yrs 199.6 lbs

Shooting for a 900+ total for next meet. (see quote below)

"If there is nothing you can improve on, your standards are too low!" - BAMA Strength Coach Scott Cochran

1Co 9:27 But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified
bamazav is offline   Reply With Quote


2 members found this post helpful.
Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 10:20 AM   #4
BigJosh
BigJosh
"the Grinder"
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 11,138, Level: 69 Points: 11,138, Level: 69 Points: 11,138, Level: 69
Activity: 8% Activity: 8% Activity: 8%
 
BigJosh's Avatar
 
Monster Memory Champion! Solitaire Golf SLingo Champion! Wheel Of Fortune Champion! Portal Champion! SpongeBob's Pizza Toss Champion! Bumper Cards Champion! ATV Winter Challenge Champion! NBA Spirit Champion! Torino 2006 Curling Champion! Ultimate Football Champion!
Tournaments Won: 2

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Central California
Posts: 3,903
Training Exp: 7-8 years
Training Type: Fullbody
Fav Exercise: Bench Press and Curls Bro
Fav Supp: Opti-Men Multi Vit
My Mood: Cool
Reputation: 225349
BigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master memberBigJosh is a master member
Default

If you're trying to build or maintain muscle mass and strength, a 2500 calorie diet (for example) consisting of potato chips, soda, and microwave burritos is not equal to a 2500 calorie diet consisting of chicken breast, steak, brown rice and vegetables.
I didn't watch the video btw, so maybe i missed something
__________________
Zdravko Veselin Gaeta

I am not a powerlifter nor am I a bodybuilder. I just want to be big and strong.
Quote:
[Today 05:50 PM] BendtheBar: Write that quote down
[Today 05:50 PM] BendtheBar: If I am going to be a bro, I am going to be the best
Make gains, not excuses.
BigJosh is offline   Reply With Quote


1 members found this post helpful.
Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 10:24 AM   #5
Thorney
Thorney
likes to lift heavy stuff
Senior Member
Uber Brawn
Points: 1,354, Level: 20 Points: 1,354, Level: 20 Points: 1,354, Level: 20
Activity: 3% Activity: 3% Activity: 3%
 

Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 383
Training Exp: 21 months
Training Type: Powerlifting
Fav Exercise: deadlifts
Fav Supp: steak
My Mood: Cheerful
Reputation: 18223
Thorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributorThorney is a dedicated contributor
Default

whole, good food > crappy processed food. calories are never just calories.
Thorney is online now   Reply With Quote


Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 10:50 AM   #6
Davis
Davis
has no status.
Senior Member
Max Brawn
Points: 4,207, Level: 41 Points: 4,207, Level: 41 Points: 4,207, Level: 41
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
 
Davis's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 746
Training Exp: 1 day
Training Type: Powerlifting
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: More deadlifts
Reputation: 54259
Davis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beastDavis is a lifting beast
Default

To me, calories are calories when I need them most. I'll be damned if I'm going to eat 1,200 calories of Oreo's when steak is also an option. Anyone with half of a brain could tell you that they aren't all equal.
Davis is offline   Reply With Quote


Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 11:48 AM   #7
MadScientistOfMaB
MadScientistOfMaB
is training for strongman
Senior Member
Uber Brawn
Points: 1,663, Level: 23 Points: 1,663, Level: 23 Points: 1,663, Level: 23
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
 
MadScientistOfMaB's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Posts: 323
Training Exp: 5
Training Type: Chaos & Pain
Fav Exercise: Squat, push-press
Fav Supp: Mr. Hyde & whiskey
My Mood: Aggressive
Reputation: 14035
MadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributorMadScientistOfMaB is a dedicated contributor
Default

It is sad that people use calories to eat junk and complain about getting fat. A calorie is a calorie just like 1 gram of omega 3 fat is the same as 1 gram of trans fat. This theory doesn't work for anything else in nutrition but it is the motto of the modern diet. So sad...
__________________
Experimentation is the word of the day here, and you're going to be like a mad scientist, tinkering with your diet until you've turned yourself into a massive, world-destroying robot bent on nothing short of the subjugation and destruction of the entire human race.
-Jamie Lewis (Chaos&Pain)

Nothing exceeds like excess.

HT: 5'10" WT: 220
Deadlift 455 Squat 405
Bench 355 Push-press 275
MadScientistOfMaB is offline   Reply With Quote


Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 11:55 AM   #8
The_Big_Sleep
The_Big_Sleep
is Strong(er)
Epigenetically Gifted
Max Brawn
Points: 2,330, Level: 29 Points: 2,330, Level: 29 Points: 2,330, Level: 29
Activity: 2% Activity: 2% Activity: 2%
 
The_Big_Sleep's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 883
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Deadlifts
My Mood: Inspired
Reputation: 39963
The_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machineThe_Big_Sleep is a lifting machine
Default

Calories are calories, macronutrients are not just macronutrients:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...calories-equal
__________________


Team HALEO Rep
‡Echo in Eternity‡

http://www.haleo.com/

Like Us On Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/HaleoFB

•A mind too active is no mind at all•
The_Big_Sleep is offline   Reply With Quote


Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 12:22 PM   #9
BendtheBar
BendtheBar
is getting skinny(ish)
Bearded Beast of Duloc
Max Brawn
Points: 1,518,552, Level: 100 Points: 1,518,552, Level: 100 Points: 1,518,552, Level: 100
Activity: 56% Activity: 56% Activity: 56%
 
BendtheBar's Avatar
 
Extreme Mini Golf Champion!Tournaments Won: 6

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 80,471
Training Exp: 20+ years
Training Type: Powerbuilding
Fav Exercise: Deadlift
Fav Supp: Butter
My Mood: Lurking
Reputation: 2569533
BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!BendtheBar is one with Crom!
Default

A calorie was a calorie when I was young.

Now it is much more important than just as an energy packet.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Destroy That Which Destroys You

"Let bravery be thy choice, but not bravado."


BendtheBar is online now   Reply With Quote


1 members found this post helpful.
Share with Facebook
Old 03-13-2014, 12:36 PM   #10
5kgLifter
5kgLifter
loves teddy bears...
Kettlebells' Angel !!!!
Max Brawn
Points: 23,645, Level: 94 Points: 23,645, Level: 94 Points: 23,645, Level: 94
Activity: 11% Activity: 11% Activity: 11%
 
5kgLifter's Avatar
 
Checkers Champion! Mario Kart Extreme! Champion! NG Holdem Champion! Javelin Champion! Mouse Batting Champion! Keno Champion!
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 13,928
Training Type: Other
My Mood: Cynical
Reputation: 646483
5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!5kgLifter is one with Crom!
Default

As one person on low income once said, calories first, nutrition afterwards, if that's all you can afford.
__________________
36.5 kg /80.3 lb Middle-Finger DL (right hand)...
5kgLifter is offline   Reply With Quote


Share with Facebook
Reply

Bookmarks


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Recomping with calorie cycling Soldier Muscle Building and Bodybuilding 16 03-14-2014 07:26 PM
best calorie tracker? MadScientistOfMaB General Board 3 07-23-2013 05:23 PM
Need a Macro / Calorie Calculator SCStrong Nutrition, Diet and Supplements 5 07-08-2013 03:07 PM
The calorie... 5kgLifter General Board 3 06-08-2013 02:11 PM
HK calorie question highkick09 Nutrition, Diet and Supplements 1 06-13-2011 02:43 PM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.