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Old 02-03-2014, 04:29 PM   #1
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This is something I've never really tried, partly because I believe that rest days are important too, and I didn't want to cut calories on those days. But I think it's time to give it a try. There are, of course, variations on the theme, but the idea is that calories go a little over maintenance on training days, then a little under on non training days.

I also think that this might work for a slow cut, eating maintenance on training days then creating a deficit on non training days only.

I may give this a test run and possibly use it on my upcoming cycle.

Does anyone have experience with anything like this? How did it work out for you?
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What would be the difference in calories between a training and non training day?
In regards to a number of calories. (For example 2800 on non training days and 3000 on training days).
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What would be the difference in calories between a training and non training day?
In regards to a number of calories. (For example 2800 on non training days and 3000 on training days).
Well that's the question, I guess. I'd think it'd be more drastic. I'm thinking it might also help to throw in some carb cycling. So maybe I'd eat almost the same thing, but cut the pre and post workout carbs along with any other carb sources on my rest day. So maybe a 600+ difference between days?
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This is something I've never really tried, partly because I believe that rest days are important too, and I didn't want to cut calories on those days. But I think it's time to give it a try. There are, of course, variations on the theme, but the idea is that calories go a little over maintenance on training days, then a little under on non training days.

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You may want to rotate you Kcal/carb and use the zero method to what weight your trying to get to or know as zig-zag you Kcal/carbs, I would do that when I dieting for a show.
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You may want to rotate you Kcal/carb and use the zero method to what weight your trying to get to or know as zig-zag you Kcal/carbs, I would do that when I dieting for a show.
I think I have an idea of what you're saying, but what's the zero method?
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You may want to rotate you Kcal/carb and use the zero method to what weight your trying to get to or know as zig-zag you Kcal/carbs, I would do that when I dieting for a show.
The Zero Method is when you are trying to establish a base line for calories so let say you want to get to 220lbs and you want to establish how many calories to take in for a day
Goal weight 220lbs 220 + 0 = 2200 calories
So your base line is 2200 calories, and that's where you start
at let say you start you diet at 2200 calories on day one and
two, then on day three you lower you calorie intake to 1800
calories, and day four you increase it to 3000 calories and
then day five you go back 2200 calories, and the great thing
about the Zig-Zag method is that when you raise or lower kcal
carbs are controlled as well ,even though you are still have
Established a base line on how much carb you are taking in
as well, so as an example if I was training chest and biceps
my calories would be at 2200 Kcal, and on leg day 3000 Kcal
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By the way, for anyone who cares, I've been using this method successfully now for a couple months. I eat 2500-2800 cals and 150-300g of carbs on training days and around 2000 cals and <20g carbs on non training days. Most of my carbs are consumed during and immediately after training.
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The body doesn't work on a 24 hour cycle. It's a waste of time. I did it for a couple years and looking back I just made things more complicated then it needed to be. You want to have eaten well the day of the training session AND the day BEFORE a training session. If you don't have a training session coming up at that point it would make sense to eat less. I train W/F/S and eat like 700 or so less on M since i'm not recovering or have a training session.

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The body doesn't work on a 24 hour cycle. It's a waste of time. I did it for a couple years and looking back I just made things more complicated then it needed to be. You want to have eaten well the day of the training session AND the day BEFORE a training session. If you don't have a training session coming up at that point it would make sense to eat less. I train W/F/S and eat like 700 or so less on M since i'm not recovering or have a training session.
How dose the body not work on a 24 hour cycle? It's actually the primary cycle that effects our bodies, but that really has nothing to do with it. The body can shift from anabolic to catabolic whenever it needs to, even multiple times a day, so there's no reason to think that the body can't be a little more catabolic one day, then a little more anabolic the next.

It absolutely is helpful to eat big the day before a big PR attempt or a really heavy session, but I'm training with the cube which means I only have 1 heavy day per week. If my goal was to get as strong as possible, then I would be cycling in the first place. The goal is to get as strong as possible while staying at my current weight, while improving aesthetics as well.
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