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Old 10-17-2009, 11:17 AM   #1
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Alright, so, here's my story...

I started my supplement career with all GNC brands, cuz that's all I knew. Then I discovered Optimum Nutrition and Controlled Labs. I'm not one that relies on my supplements in order to get results. I think that 90%-95% of our performance is achieved on attitude, effort, quality programming, and diet (from the solid foods we eat and buy at grocery stores).

That being said, I'm not so sure I'm getting the most out of those brands. And, I really don't keep up with supplements too much. So, here are some popular brands that I would consider taking. I know there are some out there that are complete shit and just hopped up on advertisements. Rank them and add some others I may not be aware of.

Optimum Nutrition
Controlled Labs
Gaspari Nutrition
Biotest
EAS
Muscle Tech
Prolab
Dymatize
MRI


The other reason I ask, is I'm trying to help out a supplement distribution company optimize their inventory and streamline their website. They offer far too many brands, unknown brands, and sub par products.

So, help me out and educate me!
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:45 PM   #2
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Optimum Nutrition
Controlled Labs
Gaspari Nutrition
Biotest
EAS
Muscle Tech
Prolab
Dymatize
MRI

ON is a good one for sure, not over hyped IMO. (getting ready to order some multi-v's from them)
CL is good.
Gaspari is good.
Biotest not sure.
EAS mostly crap IMO.
Muscle Tech EXTREMELY over priced and over hyped.
Prolab good.
Dymatize don't know.
MRI don't know.

And you should expect this from a rep, LG Sciences has some very good product's with more coming out very soon. Any question's please ask!
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Good topic. I'm no supplement-a-holic, but I do believe in the companies we feature on the forum. Whether or not you believe in or take prohormones, I think supplement companies that have products in that niche tend to be more forward thinking simply because the market changes so frequently.

Anyway....back on point...

Optimum Nutrition...Good. Not too much hype, and products are popular. This speaks volumes for me.

Controlled Labs...Thumbs up.

Gaspari Nutrition. Decent, but resorts to naming products in a deceiving way (novedex - sounds like nolvadex, halodrol - sounds like Hdrol) which annoys me. I don't care for deception, so I avoid Gaspari. And mumbo jumbo on their site like this annoys me as well:

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Halodrol Liquigels™ is the next generation multi-faceted approach to maximal muscle hyperplastic catalysm. There are no other products in the market like Halodrol Liquigels™ nor will there ever be; Halodrol Liquigels™ exist in a category that this product and this product ONLY defines. Halodrol Liquigels™ five, pharmaceutical grade ingredients provide the most scientifically advanced synergistic approach to physique and strength augmentation and puts this product literally decades ahead of anything else remotely resembling it in the supplement market. It is what you think it is!
Dropping in terms like "pharmaceutical grade" tells me their marketers are paid more then their researchers. Maybe, maybe not.

Biotest. I'll never use these guys. Anyone that backs a supplement only diet deserves to be avoided.

EAS. I trust anything made by EAS. I like Bill Phillips and co.

Muscle Tech. Shit in a can. Too much hype. Way too pricey.

Prolab. One of the better. They have survived decades without over-hyping.

Dymatize. A good, broad product line. Not a lot of BS. Thumbs up.

MRI. Marketing strategy + idiotic claims like: "Get 950% More Nitric Oxide!" They might have good products, but I distrust hype-machines.

LG Sciences and FOG...Good guys, low hype, nice products.
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Optimum Nutrition-Hands down the best right now imo

MuscleTech-Would never waste my $$. Why overpriced

Gaspari-Only had superpump but thought it was good

Dymatize-Cheap and not bad tasting protein

EAS-Pretty Good

I also like VPX. I was addicted to Redlines their for a bit

LG Sciences-Going to give thier protein a try next time I buy
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Good topic. I'm no supplement-a-holic, but I do believe in the companies we feature on the forum. Whether or not you believe in or take prohormones, I think supplement companies that have products in that niche tend to be more forward thinking simply because the market changes so frequently.

Anyway....back on point...

Optimum Nutrition...Good. Not too much hype, and products are popular. This speaks volumes for me.

Controlled Labs...Thumbs up.

Gaspari Nutrition. Decent, but resorts to naming products in a deceiving way (novedex - sounds like nolvadex, halodrol - sounds like Hdrol) which annoys me. I don't care for deception, so I avoid Gaspari. And mumbo jumbo on their site like this annoys me as well:



Dropping in terms like "pharmaceutical grade" tells me their marketers are paid more then their researchers. Maybe, maybe not.

Biotest. I'll never use these guys. Anyone that backs a supplement only diet deserves to be avoided.

EAS. I trust anything made by EAS. I like Bill Phillips and co.

Muscle Tech. Shit in a can. Too much hype. Way too pricey.

Prolab. One of the better. They have survived decades without over-hyping.

Dymatize. A good, broad product line. Not a lot of BS. Thumbs up.

MRI. Marketing strategy + idiotic claims like: "Get 950% More Nitric Oxide!" They might have good products, but I distrust hype-machines.

LG Sciences and FOG...Good guys, low hype, nice products.
With all due respect, being new on this forum. I fell it necessary to site a correction. EAS is no longer a Bill Phillips company (I'm a big fan of Bill's work though). He sold all interests and then resigned from the board a few years after that. EAS has been sold twice since Bill left. I can't remember who bought them last but it's one of the big food industry companies. (just read the fine print on any EAS product) I used to love most EAS products, but since the last acquisition products are manufactured for profit not quality. They were purchased for brand recognition only. I need to be careful, I'm stepping on some big toes here but it's all true.
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With all due respect, being new on this forum. I fell it necessary to site a correction. EAS is no longer a Bill Phillips company (I'm a big fan of Bill's work though). He sold all interests and then resigned from the board a few years after that. EAS has been sold twice since Bill left. I can't remember who bought them last but it's one of the big food industry companies. (just read the fine print on any EAS product) I used to love most EAS products, but since the last acquisition products are manufactured for profit not quality. They were purchased for brand recognition only. I need to be careful, I'm stepping on some big toes here but it's all true.
Sorry, I wasn't aware that Bill doesn't own EAS. Most of my knowledge of his company is pre-2000.

And don't worry about stepping on toes here. We treat each other with respect, and are all equals.
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Sorry, I wasn't aware that Bill doesn't own EAS. Most of my knowledge of his company is pre-2000.

And don't worry about stepping on toes here. We treat each other with respect, and are all equals.
Thanks MB.
I just stumbled across your site looking for a honest real world bodybuilding-fitness forum. Most other sites are just flooded with company reps, or reps using alias user names posing as regular Joe. (easy to spot). Then there's the dudes that think they are chemists that run off a 5000 word essay for a simple process. Way to much BS and hardly any real info.
From the look of my first few visits to this site, everyone seems to be straight up. I'm looking forward to getting and giving some good honest information. Fitness has been my lifestyle for over 20 years and I've tried allot of product. But the product market has grown tenfold in as many years and damn it's hard to keep up with what works and not be chucking mega money out the window.
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[QUOTE=rippednmichigan;7666]ON is a good one for sure, not over hyped IMO. (getting ready to order some multi-v's from them)
CL is good.
Gaspari is good.
Biotest not sure.
EAS mostly crap IMO.
Muscle Tech EXTREMELY over priced and over hyped.
Prolab good.
Dymatize don't know.
MRI don't know.


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I will also add in LG Sciences. Great people, great products, great prices

Purus Labs-top notch ph's if yu can still find them. Also organ shield and recycle are topnothc pct items at good prices

ALR-I really like Jungle Warfare, CR2, & chained out

Mann Sports- very good stuff. Logging there swagger product now and soon a new creatine product for them.

VPX-I have only used meltdown but it was good for me.
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