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jwood 08-15-2011 10:19 PM

Carb Backloading
 
Pull14 brought this up in my log so I have been reading about it today. Very interesting topic. Goes against most conventional ways of dieting.

Here is what I have gotten out of what I read. You do not consume carbs until later in the day, like your last 2 meals. Been looking through some stuff and it seems people have had great success with it here is a sample diet from dangerouslyhardcore.com

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11am workout days

10am wake up coffee w/cream
1030a whey isolate (to be replaced by torrent zero shortly)
pwo whey isolate w/creatine (to be replaced by torrent zero)
2p whole food meal consisting of 6-8oz protein with a serving of veggies
5p 2 scoops specialized protein for lean mass and 1/4 cup almonds or 1 cup cottage cheese w/almonds
8pm whole food meal consisting of 6-8oz fatty protein, veggies and 1 serving carbs (rice, quinoa, whole grains)
10p-12a 1 scoop specialized protein for lean mass w/ 1 serving of carbs either clean or somewhat dirty, last night i had a slice of pizza

430pm workout days

10am wake up coffee with cream w/1 scoop specialized protein
12pm whole food meal consisting of lean protein and serving of veggies
3p 2 scoops specialized protein and 1/4 cup almonds/or 1 cup cottage cheese walmonds
4p 1 serving torrent zero (using whey isolate at the moment)
pwo 1 serving torrent zero (using whey isolate at the moment)
7p 1 serving fatty protein, veggies and carbs
10p 1 scoop specialized protein w/1 serving carbs

off days

10am wake up coffee with cream/1 scoop specialized protein(possibly going to be replacing with torrent zero)
1230pm whole food meal consisting of lean protein w/veggies
4p 2 scoops specialized protein/1/4 cup almonds or cottage cheese w/almonds
7p 1 serving fatty protein, veggies and carbs
10p 1 serving specialized protein w/1 serving carbs
Here is a link to the article from elitefts:
Carb Back-loading

This is a very interesting concept to me, and it seems that this would fit into life better. Since usually meals later in the day are at home with family. What do you guys think??

Boucher 08-15-2011 10:47 PM

I figured I'd read the elite article and check out dangerouslyhardcore.com tomorrow, but the elite article made some very good points. Especially about if you train later in the day, but only eat carbs in the morning. Overall, I think carb backloading sounds like a very solid idea. I have a whole bunch of stuff running through my head now, so I will have to sort it all out and post tomorrow afternoon.

BendtheBar 08-16-2011 08:08 AM

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You do not consume carbs until later in the day, like your last 2 meals.
I've been eating like this for 3 years. For me it was a modified Warrior Diet...carbs during a 4 hour window, only protein during the day.

The key for me is getting enough fat in. I supplement with fish oil.

I haven't read the book or rationale, but I feel great eating like this.

Boucher 08-16-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 162081)
I've been eating like this for 3 years. For me it was a modified Warrior Diet...carbs during a 4 hour window, only protein during the day.

The key for me is getting enough fat in. I supplement with fish oil.

I haven't read the book or rationale, but I feel great eating like this.

During the 4 hour window do you limit yourself to a certain amount of carbs? Or do you simply use your head and not over do it? Or I guess there is the third option of simply stuffing your face.

BendtheBar 08-16-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Boucher (Post 162240)
During the 4 hour window do you limit yourself to a certain amount of carbs? Or do you simply use your head and not over do it? Or I guess there is the third option of simply stuffing your face.

I don't limit carb intake but I generally know about where my daily calories are.

I'm not familiar with backloading though so I;m not sure what they recommend.

Boucher 08-16-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BendtheBar (Post 162242)
I don't limit carb intake but I generally know about where my daily calories are.

I'm not familiar with backloading though so I;m not sure what they recommend.

Thanks, so that I don't threadjack Wood's carb backloading thread I'll research both and go from there.

BendtheBar 08-16-2011 03:18 PM

If you guys find any info post it here.

jwood 08-16-2011 09:20 PM

I can not seem to find much about an actual amount of carbs, I guess the author wants you to purchase his book or something. But for the most part they are saying the perfect day would be to work out in the afternoon around 3-4. You should have no carbs in the morning and then your post workout meal should contain a lot of fast absorbing carbs. And then you should have 1-2 meals with carbs after this.

This is pretty much all I get from the articles. To me they are basically saying that you need carbs post workout to restore glycogen stores. Simply put, and that makes sense. They are also saying that carbs are not as good pre workout due to the hormonal responses they cause.

BendtheBar 08-17-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jwood (Post 162354)
Simply put, and that makes sense. They are also saying that carbs are not as good pre workout due to the hormonal responses they cause.

I can see what he's getting at to a certain degree. I am not a big fan of the insulin roller coaster.

It can be hard for some who aren't big eaters to take in enough food unless they are eating some clean, fatty sources.

Any idea what the book costs?

Rich Knapp 08-17-2011 12:39 PM

I'm not a big fan on a insolent spiking either unless its withing the 2 hour window post w/o when your system is running fast and your muscles are starving. Other wise spiking only leads to fat stores. (look at diabetics diet and why) It is a interesting thought though. Maybe I'll try it on a controled bulk after the Cardnal.

The back loading theory is the carbs force your system to run fast, then sleeping you fast for 8 hours with your system is on high and you burn fat stores.


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