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Fazc
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At Btb's request I'm going to use this thread to field any questions about this routine and fill it out in a little more detail: Raw Powerlifting: How To Increase Your One Rep Max - Muscle and Brawn Bodybuilding, Powerlifting and Muscle Building. We have a few examples already in this forum here, here, here and potentially here of posters on this board who have adopted this routine and are progressing. Plenty of good discussion has popped up in those threads already which may be of help to people. What I'll attempt to do here is to consolidate the existing discussion and summarise it all in a nice easy to read thread. The original article was a good way to get people to notice how I train others and myself and it generated some interest. With this thread I'm aiming to communicate the complete system which caters for all experience levels. So first of all a summary: 1) The entire thing is very flexible. Goals, days per week and exercises will all be given options throughout based on what the individual wants to accomplish. 2) Typically 4 days per week will be used. In some circumstances more could be of benefit. 3) More and more work will be done as you get stronger and bigger. 4) You should have some experience with lifting weights prior to this and your strength level should be at least decent. For a rank beginner there are better options (see Full Body stuff here). Last edited by Fazc; 11-13-2011 at 08:16 PM. |
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Section 1, Beginner.
This is the basic template which focuses on the main exercises. The main exercises are worked with a lot of volume and assistance is provided by even more work on the main exercises! So a rough template: Monday Bench Press - 5 singles Bench Press - 5 sets of 5 Rows - 5 sets of 5 Tuesday Squat - 5 singles Squat - 5 sets of 5 Abs - 5 sets of 12 Thursday Overhead Press - 5 singles Overhead Press - 5 sets of 5 Chins/Pulldowns - 5 sets of 5 Friday Deadlifts - 5 singles Deadlifts - 5 sets of 5 Abs - 5 sets of 12 Key Features: 1) Volume is relatively low. 2) Variation is low. 3) Assistance is provided in the form of back off sets of the main exercise for the day. 4) Just one additional exercise is used per day. 5) Breaks will be taken as needed, one should aim for a complete week of light lifting every 8-12 weeks. The rest of the time should be spent lifting heavy. |
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Fazc
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Section 2, Intermediate.
Moving on from the starter template. This transition occurs when the 5x5 back offs pose too much of a demand on a day-to-day basis. The back off work is replaced with 5x5 on the main assistance exercise and an additional assistance exercise is included to increase workload. As explained here: Quote:
Monday Bench Press - 5 singles Close Grip Bench Press - 5 sets of 5 Rows - 5 sets of 5 Close Grip Incline Press - 5 sets of 10 Rearward Shrugs - 5 sets of 10 Tuesday Squat - 5 singles Good Mornings - 5 sets of 5 Front Squat/Leg Press - 5 sets of 5-10 Abs - 5 sets of 12 Thursday Overhead Press - 5 singles Overhead Lockouts - 5 sets of 5 Chins/Pulldowns - 5 sets of 5 Side Laterals - 5 sets of 12 Rearward Shrugs - 5 sets of 12 Friday Deadlifts - 5 singles Rack Deadlifts - 5 sets of 5 Heavy Shrugs - 5 sets of 5 Abs - 5 sets of 12 Key Features: 1) Volume is on the increase. 2) Variety is at it's highest yet. The main lifts are worked with singles but the back offs are provided by different exercises. Additonal exercises can be included at this point, the ones listed above are examples. Others could include Dips, RDLs, Snatch Grip Deadlifts, Trap Bar Deadlfts and many other good ones. 3) More than one additional exercise is used per day. 4) Breaks will be taken as required, one should aim for a complete week of light lifting every 4-8 weeks. The rest of the time should be spent lifting heavy. |
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Section 3, Advanced.
Essentially the goal here is to create sufficient stress to cause an adaption response and to give enough recovery to allow for the adaption to take effect. Explained here: Quote:
The actual routine at this point could well vary considerably depending on the perceived needs of the trainee, there are options to increase number of training days per week, add in more volume through sets/reps and much more. At this stage the lifter should know himself so any specific routine I give will be redundant, the lifter must decide for himself what is the next step up from intermediate. I do have guidelines for managing stress, thinking in terms of weeks rather than days Week 1: Heavy Week 2: Heavy Week 3: Light Key Features: 1) Volume is at it's all time highest. You will be practising the lifts or variations at least 3 times a week. Sets will be at least 5, potentially as much as up to 12. 2) Variety remains high. However a trainee should be proficient in the assistance exercises he knows works best for him enough that they can be treated as big exercises in their own right and must be worked at an appropriately high volume. 3) Exercises per day should be limited to 3 to account for all of the extra sets, extra days are there to spread the workload. 4) Breaks are planned. Two heavy weeks followed by a light week works well. Three heavy is you're gaining a lot of weight but proceed with caution. 5) Light weeks should mean 50-80% weights and low volume. Last edited by Fazc; 11-13-2011 at 07:41 PM. |
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My first question is volume regulation. The program example has quite a bit of assistance volume. How do you personally determine what volume is appropriate for a given lifter?
Second question...for the above Beginner version, do you recommend a minimum time under the iron before using singles?
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As I've written about before, you can do anything if you start light enough. As long as it's broken into gently then the lifter will adapt. He'll only progress through the various stages as he adapts. Quote:
Squats Bench Press Chins Deadlifts Press All done for 3 sets of 10, with the workout done 3 non-consective days per week. Once the lifter has exhausted that routine AND has decided to take the plunge into strength training, then I think the Beginner course would be appropriate. |
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I was just about to ask you a few questions then I saw this thread
.I went from the 5 singles and 5x5 to 3 singles and 3x5 as per the routine below you gave me. Day 1: Bench Press - 3 singles Bench Press - 3 sets of 5. Row - 3 sets of 10 Day 2: Squat Day Squat - 3 singles Squats - 3 sets of 5 Hypers - 3 sets of 5 Day 3: Bench Press - 3 sets of 10 Chins - 3 sets of 10 Seated Press - 3 sets of 10 Row - 3 sets of 10 Close Grip Bench - 3 sets of 10 Don't go ultra close here, shoulder width (or slightly wider) is about right. Rearward Shrug (do it on the cable row machine) - 3 sets of 10 Day 4: Deadlift - 3 singles Deadlifts - 3 sets of 5 Abs - 3 sets Ok so here's the idea behind this advancement: 1) Abbreviation. We've taken a massive reduction in volume across the board. Your first thoughts when you complete Day 1 on Monday will be "was that it?" and that's good! This will inevitably lead you to more weight on the bar, as the body 'peaks' with the lowered volume. That should allow you more weeks of progression. 2) Specialisation. The Press day has been dropped in favour of a lighter bodybuilding day. The purpose of this is two-fold. It allows you to focus on your Bench day while giving you a fun pump day which should be relatively less stressful. Make sure the 3 sets of 10 work is heavy, but try to limit your rest periods between sets, 45-60 seconds if possible. This is a day you could do some bicep work if needed. 3) Peaking. Take sufficient rest between sets (on Days 1, 2 and 4). Your volume has almost been halved. 5 minutes or more between sets is acceptable, whatever you need to make the reps! So far all is good, though I think my lower back is having trouble with recovery from the deadlifts. Last week on deadlifts, I hit 175kg for 3 singles and the 3x5 was 140kg. Would now be a good time to change the deadlift day to whats below? Or should I just keep powering through. The singles on deadlifts are still great, its just the 3x5 I think are getting too stressful. Deadlifts - 5 singles Rack Deadlifts - 5 sets of 5 Heavy Shrugs - 5 sets of 5 Abs - 5 sets of 12 Everything else I am recovering well, the lighter day works well, I like that. From feel, I dont think I should get rid of the back off sets on bench and squat, they are both still going well, so no need to change that. The lighter day I quite like, I was just wondering at what point should I increase the volume on squatting and benching. I know this is meant to be a peaking routine, but I am craving more volume on squats and bench. EDIT: By increase volume I mean go up to 5 singles, and I want to do 5x5 or even 3x5 on bench and squat.
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That's a good question Spart, thanks for that.
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If you're really struggling with the lower back then yes progress onto the next routine. Switch the back off sets to a variation and add in another assistance exercise. Deadlifts - 5 singles Rack Deadlifts - 5 sets of 5 Heavy Shrugs - 5 sets of 5 Abs - 5 sets of 12 Quote:
Just make sure you're honest with yourself, are you actually stalling in the gym because of your lower back or are you just a little beat up? If you can still progress, then I suggest an important lesson is to carry on through. If you truly think you'd risk injury then it's your call to switch it up, just bear that in mind. A little pain is something to get used to. Last edited by Fazc; 11-13-2011 at 07:59 PM. |
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So the rack deadlifts I pull from about 1" below the knees? I havent really done them before, but I imagine I will start at maybe 140kg for 5x5? Do I need to max out and take a light week? Today is meant to be my first training day. Last week I hit 115kg for 3 singles on bench, this week I could go for 115kg for 5 singles, and I did 92.5kg for 3x5, I feel I could do 95kg for 5x5.
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