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Old 01-04-2011, 08:23 PM   #21 (permalink)
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OK, so for me...

I'm about 203 cm tall so given a max FFMI of 25...
Max lean mas = 25 x 2.03 x 2.03 = 103 kg = 226 pounds
I weigh about 330 so then
(330 - 226)/330 = 31 % bodyfat... But I'm actually around 15% bodyfat.

Just like BMI, your FFMI isn't linear with height, and thus making absolute assumptions about 25 being the max you can obtain naturally is wrong and meaningless, IMHO.
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Wow, guilty until proven innocent. No wait, you're even suggesting more extreme than that, it's guilty without being able to prove innocent since we *know* they're all guilty anyway. LOL, wow.
Right on Ox - not a fan of this attitude. I think it's motivated by the envy of lesser-mortals...
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Wow, guilty until proven innocent. No wait, you're even suggesting more extreme than that, it's guilty without being able to prove innocent since we *know* they're all guilty anyway. LOL, wow.
I don't think it's a question of guilt or innocense. I wish sports leagues and our legal system would stop being retarded, legalize it across the board and be honest. Pro athletes juice. It's unfortunate and sad that they have to pretend not to and that it's percieved to be unfair. Their job is not be role models, it's to ****ing win. We as spectators shouldn't give a **** how they do it with the exception of actually cheating at the game. Things like video taping opponents practices or stealing their playbooks are cheating. Using drugs to maximize athletic potential of players is not. IMO.
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Pro athletes juice. It's unfortunate and sad that they have to pretend not to and that it's percieved to be unfair.
That's my point, not all of them juice, and you stating it like fact is rediculous. I train with a pro strongman and he says he was clean when he won his most impressive title. He's an honest person and I believe him 100%, and according to him there are other well known guys competing in strongman that are clean as well.

Don't get me wrong though, I have no personal issues with it other than it's illegal. I wish it was legal, and think some of it probably should be, but it's not and probably never will be.
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I don't think it's a question of guilt or innocense.
It is a question of guilt because currently it *is* illegal. Even in sports/federations that are untested, it's still illegal. If the police don't want to enforce it by arresting top bodybuilders who flaunt their use, then the law shouldn't be on the books.
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