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BendtheBar
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BendtheBar
is after a 2000 raw total.
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I applaud all at MAB who have a passion for iron. It's growing here, that's all I know.
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J_Byrd
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interesting take on it. Gear bashing for sure. Not really sure its gears fault for crappy judges though.
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BendtheBar
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PLUSA death was mostly due to the fact that they didn't port properly to the net. MAB's growth, despite zero publicity in the powerlifting world, is a testament to just how popular strength training still is.
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My views, but remember, I'm not a powerlifter. . .
Powerlifting is catching on as a sport because of several reasons. The biggest reasons are it's acceptance level at the meets. It is one sport where a new guy squatting 300 lbs is applauded almost as much as the veterans squatting 600 lbs. There is a sense of belonging when you enter the sport. Compare that to other sports where you have to ride the bench or get cut from the team because you don't have the experience to start. It is pushed heavily on public forums. Think about the routines that are suggested to new lifters, heavy on basic compound lifts. And not just any compounds lifts, but they have to be the bench, squat, and deadlift. Ask for form advice and you will get standards based in powerlifting because that's how you increase your numbers. Finally, how many times have we read, "Your lifts don't count until they've been performed for a judge." In the public eye, gear is looked at the same way steroids are; it's cheating. So it seems pretty natural that raw events are becoming more popular. Also, gear is something that more experienced lifters get into, so it stands to reason that raw events are becoming more popular since the growth is coming from new competitors. |
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J_Byrd
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Raw lifting will always be a bigger part of powerlifting. You need zero equipment and it is something you can do on your own. Gear is the polar opposite of that.
I think if powerlifting will ever be "mainstream" it will be raw lifting.
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No idea if this applies elsewhere, but around here, there's been pretty much an explosion of gyms opening up over the last few years or so. Most of them the 24 hour kind, sure, but even most (maybe all?) of those actually do have weights, benches and so on. Seems to be a more popular pastime in general, IOW.
Also, I would say Crossfit has made barbells in particular more "acceptable", and just more well-known to the public, in ways other than in the Olympics every 4 years - assuming any given viewer is even going to see the weightlifting then... I know, Crossfit cops a lot of flack, but credit where it's due, I reckon. And I might be wrong, but it looks a lot like more and more people in general (not just those competing in sports) being aware of the benefits of resistance training, every year. Could make them more likely to appreciate powerlifting? Maybe start training themselves - even have a go in a local comp...! edit: Also, I agree that powerlifting-style training gets pushed on forums a lot.
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J_Byrd
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I didn't know Marty Gallagher was from my neighborhood! I lifted in that exact meet in Columbia, Md. last year. Weird.
I don't like his tone on the gear bashing either, btw. One reason that meet had so many raw competitiors was that it is at a crossfit place and was advertised in the crossfit community first, so most of the registrants were raw crossfitters. Other local crossfit gyms enetered to challenge the home crossfit "team". My experience in Virginia Championships was a lot different than that! I'd say 70% of the lifters in that meet were equipped. And the Virginia record book is has massive geared totals, but pretty small raw records by comparison. I could set VA records in my age and weight group with just a 405 squat, 300 bench and 425 deadlift! I won my age group in that meet too mainly because there was only 4 raw guys I was competing against. That tells me raw lifting is not that popular here, or at least the fed I am in it isn't maybe. Gear and drugs aren't the problem, because let's face it Kaz was as juiced as it gets and he was highlighted in the article about being a popular force in the golden age of powerlifting. No, it's the lack of continuity. There should be ONE national championships that you get invited to because you were a top lifter in your region for raw and geared, and everybody should be eligible to be drug tested. There should be ONE regional championships that you get into with a qualifying total from a local meet. Local meets should be open to anyone. All under one set of rules. One standard of judging. I agree with OR, but one other thing that is driving new people right now is that there are so many feds now, you can be a national champion and set records, etc. Everybody wants that orange slice. I have a state champion raw masters I plaque on my wall right now. Woo Hoo! It would mean a lot more if it was done under a unified system comparing like individuals to like individuals. Just my .02
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