5/3/1 Phone App's.... L@@K

[Ramrod]

I got this in an E-Mail.... What do you think about this...

If you're seeing this, you've contacted me before about the 5/3/1 app. I now need your help.

Jim Wendler has sent me a cease and desist through his lawyer demanding I remove the free *and* pro versions of 5/3/1 from all app stores, and I haven't been able to contact him to explain the situation or negotiate licensing.

If you care about the 5/3/1 app, and you want it to exist, I humbly ask you to let him know that you care. Juliet Wendler ontacted me with the cease and desist, so maybe she would listen, too.

Jim Wendler - northofvag@gmail.com
Juliet Wendler - julietdeane@gmail.com

Anything you can say about the app will help. I want to keep things NOV, but now lawyers are involved, and I'm up against a wall.
Thanks so much for the support and kind words (or bug reports!) over the past year. It's been a blast, and I'd do it all again.

[BigJosh]

I was just about to post a thread about this a probably still will.

[BigJosh]

Sorry for even bothering to post.

[BigJosh]

Nevermind

[MikeC]

When you said there is a free version of the app, does that mean there is a paid version as well?

[Ramrod]

The way I look at it. If the APP is so bad. Why not go out and make a better one himself. I love the app. I just have the Free ones. But I use them everyday in the Gym to figure % and 1RM's. It also logs your last Set and Reps and even Chart it for ya.

I the JW is going over board. I understand he came up with it in a way. But Lifting off % has been around for years. Just like DC and FST-7.. All those are, are tweaked workouts of the past. Just rearrange Lifts, add a % or Giant Set (FST-) or Rest/Pause (DC).. Then through in your special extra's. Stretches, 12 Rep Range, deload etc....

Nothing has really been reinvented here. Just a different twist on it.

Let the guy Keep his app, but just let him offer a Free version and the Paid one JW get a 50% of the sales... Call it done... If the guy raises the price to $1.99 he would still make the same amount.

[BendtheBar]

Buying into an existing APP would certainly be the easier way to go. I am not sure what the development costs would be, but I know for a fact that a free existing APP is cheaper.

Beyond this, while "Wendler's 531" might be a registered trademark, I'm not sure that one can patent percentage systems or mathematical formulas, so it would be interesting to see what happened if he changed the APP to a 531 formula generator.

From Ars Technica:


Does not compute: court says only hard math is patentable | Ars Technica

So you can't patent calculations that could be done with a pencil and paper.

[Ramrod]

This APP is now called BIG LIFTS..

It's a great APP with new updates all the time. It now has 5/3/1 and Starting Strength in it as well.