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BendtheBar
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bruteforce
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I might point out the actual deaths caused by tobacco and alcohol abuse, but then again, the FDA wouldn't care about the facts now would they.
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Here's more info for anyone interested:
FDA challenges marketing of DMAA products for lack of safety evidence
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Rich Knapp
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The problem is sup company's have been found lacing it (them), with small traces of steroids just so customers see results with a product. Easy to hide illegal substances behind these ingredient. This is why even the WADA is looking at banding it (them).
This has been in the works for almost a year now. lol To a natural tested BBer this is old news. lol
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42 complaints out of how many usages? There will be 42 auto accidents in the next few minutes, I don't see the FDA running to ban cars, gasoline or hot McDonald's Coffee. I don't use the product but I am not about running scared every time a few people complain about something they took and it had side effects. I took flomaxx a few years back. I was one of the 1% of 1% who had mood swings attributed to the meds. I didn't rush to get it pulled, I just started a different course of treatment. I wish people would use their common sense before dialing the attorney.
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The first thing that came to my mind is...how many complaints do they get against bottled water? I actually Googled that question, but found nothing yet.
One thing I learned from my time answering questions is that there are a small percentage of folks who come up with some really "interesting" side effects from the most tried and tested products. I've literally had people tell me that creatine caused their big toe to swell, and it lead to a nail infection. I'm sure some of the claims are legitimate, but I also would wager a high percentage are unrelated or from inappropriate usage. I might be wrong.
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BendtheBar
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Something I found on Wiki, Wiki:
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Tannhauser
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I take BTB's point that people will routinely attribute side-effects incorrectly, but there is a logic behind the putative side effects in this case, given what the compound does. And with the 'events' including death, it's not necessarily trivial stuff. I don't disagree with the principle that people should be allowed to take their own risks, but here's a case where manufacturers perhaps weren't even alerting the consumers, or even in a position to inform them.
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Do the availability of things, kill people, or do the people in which misuse it kill/injure/cause health complications?
For example: Alcohol is still legal, and its on a high list of beverages in which causes a plethora of complications, related deaths, injuries, dismemberment, and its not just health related. It is near the TOP of the list as the number 1 abused....drug. Tobacco is another. Neither of these will be illegal or stopped any time soon. Not that it would matter, when you consider the black market and the prohibition period. The FDA: The F*U*C*K*E*D-UP DATA ADMINISTRATION.
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