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I figured it was time to stop lurking as I've been reading this board for some time now - seems like a perfect all around fit for me (like-minded trainees). I'm 38 and have never really put on the size I wanted through all my years of lifting. Just recently turned on by reading Hepburn's Law (thanks bendthebar), I wanted to set up a modified routine. Please add your input if you have some constructive criticism ![]() Some important things first: 1) I do not have good recovery abilities, but can handle the volume. 3 days per week is my sweet spot (Monday, Wednesday and Friday). 2) I am 6' and about 200 lbs, fairly lean, long limbs and skinny bone structure. 3) I really prefer focusing on just one major muscle area/lift on each training day (have been battling this for years), and so I must go with my personal preference on just once per week on the lifts. 4) To move up to the 8x3 over 4 weeks, my plan is to move up 2 reps on each weekly workout instead of just 1 rep (or else it would take me 2 months to add weight by following Hepburn's plan). 5) And I Dip instead of bench (old shoulder injury), and do not do anything overhead (same reason). Everything else rocks! The Routine: Monday (Push): Dips: 8x2 (adding 1 rep to 2 sets each week). Incline DB: 3x8 (this would replace the "pump" sets instead). Curl: 3x8 (not necessary, but I've enjoyed having curls on Mondays). Wednesday (Squat): Squats: 8x2 (same as Dip progress) Squats: 3x8 (pump seets) Calve Raise: few sets, nothing crazy Friday (Row): BB Row: 8x2 (same as Dip & Squat progress) Pulldown: 3x8 (pump) High Pull: 3x5 (a little extra for delts) Pushdown: Probably drop these, but have enjoyed a little tricep work on Fridays in the past. Last edited by thexman; 03-28-2012 at 06:41 PM. |
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I could totally get into that routine.
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I want to see you challenging yourself on the pump sets. Do more than 8 reps on each set. Do as many as you can. When you can do 8 reps on all 3 sets with a given weight, add more weight next week. If you aren't pushing on these sets, there is a chance the first couple of sets will feel rather easy. let's give your body an extra shove, so to speak. Does this make sense? Regarding size, I consider somewhere around a 300 bench, 400 squat and 500 deadlift to be the primary goals when training for size and strength. Since you are using incline presses and dips, I want you to focus on getting as humanly strong as possible on these lifts. For barbell rows you want to row 275-315. These seem like lofty numbers, but size will come with strength. On the other hand, it's hard to add much size moving from a 95 pound row to a 165 pound row. My point in bringing this up is to encourage you to look at muscle building as a 2-3 year process. Get strong over the next 2-3 years and your size will increase. Best of luck! What's your eating strategy?
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Thanks Off Road,
The once weekly just fits my personality. I guess I'm really just influenced by the 8x3 protocol from Hepburn, slowly adding 1 rep each workout (but in my case, 2 reps) and sticking to this for the long haul. I've been "training to failure" all of these years and progress is virtually non-existant. I've also gone down about every variation old-school routines possible (many from John McCallum's book), full body, etc. and no matter what I just cannot progress unless I focus on one area daily, but no more than 3 alternate days per week. - John |
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Some people just don't do as well with "to failure" training. As long as you are training HARD, keeping a couple of reps in the tank is as far as you really need to go. And as long as you are making progress towards strength, everything else will fall into place.
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Thanks for the fast and thoughtful reply man - what a great welcome
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I guess I'm a little preoccupied by wanting to add weight at the minimum monthly, but I suppose if I started with a heavy enough weight then 6 weeks might be better (3,2,2,2,2,2 onto 3,3,3,3,3,3) Quote:
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With 40 down the corner (not like it's old, but my mind has shifted), and with 3 kids and a wife - health of the inside of my body is vitally important to me. I guess to sum it up is I eat tons of veggies, organic and clean meats, fruits and raw milk. Some days I fast until about 2-3 pm, other days I eat non-stop from morning to night). I just choose very good foods and am not into sugars, breads, pastas, or any of that good stuff or else: ![]() - John |
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My last question was about starting weights.
I'm not coming from a lay-off or an injury, and not a newbie, so would I start my power sets with a 5-rep max, or something close to that? - John |
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Also, do you guys think that since I would be doing 6x3 (I'll take bendthebar's advice on that instead of 8x3), and only hitting each lift once weekly, that adding 5 lbs to lower lifts and 2.5 lbs to upper lifts are too little?
Maybe 10 lbs every 6 weeks on squats, and 5 for upper? - John |
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