this is how NOT to do db pullovers..

[Fazc]

Originally Posted by miked96

We can turn this into the pullover thread!

Heres how John Meadows had me do them.

Dumbell Pullovers - Version 1 - YouTube

Done this way, you'd think they would they be good for improving thoracic flexibility?

[miked96]

-I do think it would help but for what I assume your looking for (building your arch), I think the old benching with the pvc pipe or foam roller under your lower back would work best.

-I did a cycle of MD training under John Meadows and he would have me do these later in my back workout to give my arms a rest and still hit my back.

[Rich Knapp]

Back to doing Pull-Overs. If you look at Machine Pull Overs and the movement of the arm's. Doing a straight bar, under hand grip at shoulder width- pull ups or cable pull downs will give you continues tension at the top of the arc unlike with a Db or Bb. With you not having your arm's locked out streight it will alow more weight with no tension on the Tri's or Elbow's

[Fazc]

Originally Posted by miked96

-I do think it would help but for what I assume your looking for (building your arch), I think the old benching with the pvc pipe or foam roller under your lower back would work best.

General flexibility in that area, Squats is mainly what I was thinking of.

I've been working on increasing my flexibility for more upright Squatting.

[TitanCT]

Originally Posted by Tannhauser

They look fine to me? Bent arms, but not much elbow extension going on. I used to do them like that, albeit with a greater range of motion.

he doesnt lock his elbows into that bend. he breaks the lock and his elbows do about half the ROM.

i do them like mike, the way john meadows taught me. huge lat stretch and intense seratus/lat use.

honestly, layne is focused too much on "heavy" and not enough on form.

[TitanCT]

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

TitanCT if this is the wrong way, can you please post a video of the wright way?

Just posting this vid and saying its the wrong way helps no one. Just bashes IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Layne and NPC bodybuilder Aaron.

Just saying.

just to be clear. i think Aaron has good form. just needs a little more stretch. =0 )

[TitanCT]

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

When you do them "wrong" it allows you to use more weight and have the Db really stretch the crap out of you.

I like going as heavy as I can because I am so tight, to the point it pulls my core up and I have to be held down. With real light weight I also take a big breath then go down, exhale everything, then come up. Heavier I blow out on way up.

WNBF Pro Wheelchair Bodybuilder Rich Knapp - YouTube

i can do them the way meadows taught me, the correct way, and not lose the lock in my elbows and almost or even occasionally touch the floor.

[TitanCT]

Originally Posted by Fazc

Done this way, you'd think they would they be good for improving thoracic flexibility?

Johns way is all about stretch the shit out of your lat, then bringing lots of love to your lats and seratus