Fullbody and Squats & Deadlifts

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by ILoveLifting

Btb, when the weights moved are as heavy as you use it may be best to hit the biggest most taxing set last.

Well I will say this...seeing Jesse knock out 315x20 makes me feel like a wimp.

[Fazc]

Originally Posted by Fazc

When introducing Full-Body routines, your first goal is to condition your body to withstand the workout.

This seems to be a popular topic so, to expand on this point a little:

Beginner workouts/Building a Foundation:

The 3 times a week, Full-Body routine is often recommended for beginners and in my opinion it's perfect.

1) Basic Full-Body conditioning & fitness. The body of a beginner needs to be conditioned to be able to work through for an hour without feeling overly tired. Once it can do this then all the basic things like getting the form right, concentrating etc become easier. It's hard to do that stuff when the mind is tired, at least to begn with.

As well as that, going back to a Full-Body routine without a good foundation of reps might cause you to fatigue early. So again, back to building a solid foundation first.

On a bit of a tangent, I really think a lot of "hardgainers" fall into this category, just really unconditioned so any small workload knocks them out.

2) High frequency, low volume. Higher frequency allows for more practice on the important lifts. More reps = more conditioning, more often. Exercises that beginners initially have particularly have problems with such as Squats and Bench Presses get to be practised more often.

2) Focus on a handful of exercises. It's always going to be easier to learn 5 exercises than it is to learn 15.

Anyway off on a bit of a tangent with the last point but it really is amazing what the body can get used to, if you start light enough.

[Trevor Ross]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

The more I do fullbody-style workouts, the more I like the idea of doing high energy/taxing lifts like squats and deads last.

What say you? When do you prefer to do the taxing lifts?

I like to do the cleans and high pulls first, but I do Squats last because after I'm done with Squats the last thing I want to do is train more.

[dmaipa]

If I'm doing olympic lifts, I put them first. But when it comes to squats or deadlifts. Whenever I have squats for the day I always feel better starting out with it. It feels like it sets the bar for the rest of my workout, deadlifts for some reason I like it towards the end. I'm actually pretty fickle with it because it really depends on how im feeling..haha

[Bodybygamma]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

The more I do fullbody-style workouts, the more I like the idea of doing high energy/taxing lifts like squats and deads last.

What say you? When do you prefer to do the taxing lifts?

THIS SOUNDS LIKE PRE-EXHAUSTION!!! THIS IS MADNESS lol

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by Bodybygamma

THIS SOUNDS LIKE PRE-EXHAUSTION!!! THIS IS MADNESS lol

Or energy conservation for a fat man. I have lost my conditioning and need to regain it.