Is bulking and cutting a thing of the past?

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by old school

Also will I lose any muscle going from roughly 14% to 10% and can I still build muscle on a deficit even if its small?

Some can build muscle on a deficit. You'll only know by trying. It's far easier if you're still running on beginner gains.

[Trevor Ross]

Originally Posted by glwanabe

What do you estimate is your lean body mass?

How tall are you again?

5'11", and I think my LBM is around 225lbs.

[Carl1174]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

Because of the natural gains curve, it makes more sense to lean towards a more conservative approach with each additional pound of muscle you gain.

While how aggressively you eat is up to you, it is a reality that naturals can't continue to add unending amounts of muscle, so aggressive bulks once you are past heavy beginner gains is a waste of food.

It is my opinion that if you are young and a beginner you should eat aggressively if your training is as it should be. Once you are past beginner gains, a moderate clean bulk is the way to go.

Cutting? It's for competitors. Or beach goers.

I will also mention that far too many young lifters undereat and wonder why gains aren't coming. Undereating has far more of a downside than overeating if you are training hard.

If there is one thing i could change from when i started lifting it would be that i just ate everything in sight. You see too many kids not getting the gains they should cos they are worried about losing the six pack... Just eat and build whan you start, its lots easier to strip the fat than to build the muscle...

Carl.

[old school]

When should you actually cut? Any specific measurements you should have so you don't look real skinny when youe done lol

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by Carl1174

If there is one thing i could change from when i started lifting it would be that i just ate everything in sight. You see too many kids not getting the gains they should cos they are worried about losing the six pack... Just eat and build whan you start, its lots easier to strip the fat than to build the muscle...

Carl.

Yes it is.

I respect that many just want a good six pack and don't want to be a bodybuilder, but if the goal is maximum muscle, undereating is a fast path to limited gains.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by old school

When should you actually cut? Any specific measurements you should have so you don't look real skinny when youe done lol

Cutting is goal dependent. If you just want a decent amount of muscle then after a couple years you could start cutting.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by Trevor Ross

5'11", and I think my LBM is around 225lbs.

What's your weight?

I am 5'10" with a 178 LBM.

[Trevor Ross]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

What's your weight?

I am 5'10" with a 178 LBM.

I weigh 275lbs.

[old school]

A LBM of 225lbs seems a bit high?

BTB, do you think I should cut with 15.5inch arms, 26inch legs, 42.5-43inch chest?

[Trevor Ross]

Originally Posted by old school

A LBM of 225lbs seems a bit high?

BTB, do you think I should cut with 15.5inch arms, 26inch legs, 42.5-43inch chest?

I "think" I'm around and maybe over the 20%BF range, I need to find the calipers to give a straight answer on that one.