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[BendtheBar]

Stop telling people to engage in workout programs not conducive to their goals - Bodybuilding.com Forums

not everyone has the same goals that they should all be pushed into one size fits all programs to build up a "strength base."

[ricka182]

I read that thread...it's amazing how the ignorance of some people spreads like a disease..

[BendtheBar]

Man, I spent my teen years doing bullcrap work with weights and looked like a fat skinny guy. I never made any progress whatsoever until I started slapping on plates.

I'm not really sure what the alternative is...

[Maiar]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

Man, I spent my teen years doing bullcrap work with weights and looked like a fat skinny guy. I never made any progress whatsoever until I started slapping on plates.

I'm not really sure what the alternative is...

Yeah I see people saying 'it's not about how much you lift, it's about how much you look like you lift' and I think to myself, well if you can't lift much at all how the hell are you going to look like you lift anything?
I notice people make the best noob gains when they get on a solid program with linear progression that focuses on the 3 big lifts, and I'm new to the iron game. It sucks that people waste their time because they don't keep it simple and focus on getting strong but I guess it's not my problem.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by Maiar

It sucks that people waste their time because they don't keep it simple and focus on getting strong but I guess it's not my problem.

Even intense workouts that involve a lot of slow negatives, rest-pause, etc., still focus on progression. DC training is a perfect example of that.

Regardless of the system, you still have to lift a heavier rock sooner or later.

[nighttrain]

Light weight!!!!!

[IronManlet]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

Even intense workouts that involve a lot of slow negatives, rest-pause, etc., still focus on progression. DC training is a perfect example of that.

Regardless of the system, you still have to lift a heavier rock sooner or later.

Exactly. It's either heavy, or nothing at all; IMO. (heavy being a relative term. lol I'm not as strong as most of you)

I went in there and told them to either try a simple progression program out for themselves and judge its effectiveness that way instead of arguing about it, or to STFU. They thought I was idiotic...

[BendtheBar]

I was thinking about this for other applications...sports...mountain climbing...whatever.

My question is...if you are lifter weights for ANY purpose, is there ever a reason why progression isn't important for someone just starting out?

[nighttrain]

i think progression has to be important, how else will you ever know if what you are doing is working or not...

[big_swede]

"If you dont want to break a sweat and you cant handle pain, then why are you at my gym taking up my power rack curling your way into oblivion, punk?"