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Old 11-27-2009, 11:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If people added up everything they actually ate, they would realize how much junk they eat.

This same issue goes with people estimating their BF%. They think that there 10%, when in reality they are closer to 14%, or higher.
That's my point exactly, but I didn't say it with the clarity that you did.

Regarding bodyfat...if I had a dollar for every 200 pound + guy who thinks their bodyfat is 10%, I would have a nice new car right now.

On a serious note...where along the line did the 100% clean eating mantra interject itself into the bodybuilding lifestyle? Was it a specific bodybuilder, like Gironda?
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm with you guys on this--350 bucks is just completely ridiculous.
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well i've got a new supplement coming out. for just $450, $300 if you pre order, you'll get this revoloutionary new sup that will add up to 50ibs of muscle in just 3 weeks. What is this new sup, Super Hypocondriactol. And for just $50 more i'll throw in hardcore weeinebabysupergrowth. with that stack you will not only gain up to 50ibs of muscle in three weeks, you'll also lose upto 40ibs of fat in the same time.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm with you guys on this--350 bucks is just completely ridiculous.
I see from your website that you have the same love/hate relationship with T-Nation that I have. Too much of that in the Industry.

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well i've got a new supplement coming out. for just $450, $300 if you pre order, you'll get this revoloutionary new sup that will add up to 50ibs of muscle in just 3 weeks. What is this new sup, Super Hypocondriactol. And for just $50 more i'll throw in hardcore weeinebabysupergrowth. with that stack you will not only gain up to 50ibs of muscle in three weeks, you'll also lose upto 40ibs of fat in the same time.
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SDI-Labs spends a fortune each month on glossy ads. You’ve most likely seen their multi-page ads in Muscular Development. They claim to peddle “legal steroids.” And you better get them before the government takes these “steroids” off the market! Well, at least that’s what their website states.

An SDI-Labs “stack” revolves around three primary junk products – Winni-V, D-Bol, and Masterbolan. Well if those products don’t sound like steroids, nothing does. Hell, they must at least be prohormones, right?

Hell no. They’re shit. Pure shit in a bottle. And every last freaking claim on the SDI-Labs website is pure bunk. Go ahead, piss away your cash by supporting these clowns.

SDI-Labs is all to eager to help build a cycle specifically for you. Just head to their website and take a look. Stack packages run from $250 to $800 a cycle. Unfortunately, the cycles only last 1-3 months. What an awesome deal. Sorry, if you couldn’t tell, that was sarcasm.

So, let’s do the math…if you have $3,200 spare buckaroos burning a hole in your pocket, then you can afford SDI-Labs uber juice for a year. What a deal!

Or, for that price you could purchase 100 bottles of any effective prohormone, and have enough legal juice to last you for 25 years. No shit! Do the math. Let’s see…should you purchase a year’s worth of SDI-Labs bullshit, or a lifetime supply of prohormones? Hmmm…I’ll have to think about this one.
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I logged onto my t-nation account that I've never used, and said this was all utter BS. Somehow my post disappeared.
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I'm trying to understand the mid set of those defending TNation. Can someone please exlain to me why you defend a scammer? Isn't a scammer the same as a thief? If I tried to con your grandmother out of $400 I would go to jail. Sure, it's legal. I get that. But we still know it's wrong.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. We still have to make ethical and moral judgements, and they aren't based on legality. If I kick your dog when no ones around because I can legally get away with it, it's still not the right thing to do.

Some of the worst thieves are the ones that take the gray areas of law and abuse them for profit.
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I'm trying to understand the mid set of those defending TNation. Can someone please exlain to me why you defend a scammer? Isn't a scammer the same as a thief? If I tried to con your grandmother out of $400 I would go to jail. Sure, it's legal. I get that. But we still know it's wrong.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. We still have to make ethical and moral judgements, and they aren't based on legality. If I kick your dog when no ones around because I can legally get away with it, it's still not the right thing to do.

Some of the worst thieves are the ones that take the gray areas of law and abuse them for profit.
I think some people are so desperate for results they want to believe in "magic bullets." My blog gets a lot of traffic from my posts on the whole Stemulite scam. I occasionally get hate mail from idiots telling me it added lb's to their bench press.
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I made a post about Stemulite as a scam. Maybe that's the one you found?
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