I thought WNBF was natural bodybuilding?

[Rich Knapp]

Originally Posted by Crank

Is any sport truly 100% natural at elite levels?

YES for the people that have morals and don't cheat.

So let me get this streight. I'm the #1 wheelchair natty bodybuilder in world so I'm elite and must not be 100% natty?

Judgmental?

[Rich Knapp]

Originally Posted by gaspers04

I was thinking the same. Built yes but chem jacked, not really.

Full bulk pic; YES
user; NO WAY
Bust butt work ethics and anal wathing macro's; Thats a big YES

[LtL]

[J_Byrd]

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

YES for the people that have morals and don't cheat.

So let me get this streight. I'm the #1 wheelchair natty bodybuilder in world so I'm elite and must not be 100% natty?

Judgmental?

Guess it depends on what you call natural?

Is what we call natural today the same as the 1950s? The number of supplements out there, not sure there is a such thing as natural
(just my opinion). Either on some form of AAS or not. I firmly believe you are not an AAS user, and you should be damn proud of that!

I think it is wrong on so many levels to have this guys photo posted and have people questioning if he is on AAS or not. I really wish this thread would be deleted. I think its a personal attack on his character with no proof of his use. If it was me, I wouldnt be very happy.

[Crank]

By elite I meant the top tier; the pros who beat other pros. The equivalent of the top 10 at Mr. Olympia.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by thumpinos

Is the WNBF truly a natural fed. Can anyone fill me in?

Ok, so I changed the thread question to the above, which is the essence of the discussion, specific names aside.

[bruteforce]

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

Go spend a full day and train with him then you question his results and if there natural.

He is old school were he prefures real food to powders or cemicals. Is he natural? More natural than 90% of high schoolers.

Now would you like to post a comp pic of that grandfather instead of a full bulk and fat ass pic or should I?
BTW lets all so add he is the natty WNBF equivalant of Arnold and IBBB. So ya he is a big boy and one of the worlds top heavy weights in the natty world.

Just trying to make sure I understand Rich. No judgement, not accusations, just a question. What it seems like you are saying is this fellow is
1. Pretty much the most genetically gifted dude out there
2. Busts his ass every day in the gym and in the kitchen, and does everything right.
3. Is bulked heavily in that picture and won't look as huge when he cuts down for the stage.

#3 is the first thing I thought when seeing the picture, that he was bulked up, carrying some fat, and looking enormous.

[MC]

Never understand the debate of natural versus not. Never.

People choose to do what they want to look and lift how they want. End of story. There is no moral high ground in "not using." At least, not in my opinion.