Muscle building and muscle priority

[gaspers04]

I guess out really depends on training styles.

[leefarley]

Originally Posted by 5kgLifter

Primary: the body


It works as a unit, stop messing with it.

^^^^
this

with my minimal experience i say train the body as a whole with compound exercises.Just my 2p worth.

[gaspers04]

Originally Posted by leefarley

^^^^
this

with my minimal experience i say train the body as a whole with compound exercises.Just my 2p worth.

Unable to reach my goal that way, next....

[LtL]

Originally Posted by MC

I don't get breaking them up in this way at all.

To goal (to me) is to look wide (from the front/back) and thick (from the side).

Wide = back (traps, too), shoulders, quads
Thick = chest, back (to an extent), hammies

I don't see the need to separate traps from your back.

You and I agree. Wide and thick.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by MC

I don't get breaking them up in this way at all.

To goal (to me) is to look wide (from the front/back) and thick (from the side).

Wide = back (traps, too), shoulders, quads
Thick = chest, back (to an extent), hammies

I don't see the need to separate traps from your back.

Good post.

I don't general view them as different. I tend to group rear delts with pulling movements too.

[WilldBill88]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

T NATION | The 11 Body Part Split

Latest article at T-Nation has an interesting break down of primary, secondary and detail muscles for muscle building:


Primary: Back, chest, quadriceps
Secondary: Hamstrings, shoulders, triceps, biceps
Detail: Abdominals, traps, forearms, calves

Agree? Disagree? Any changes you would make?

Primary: Back, chest, quadriceps, shoulders
Secondary: Hamstrings, triceps, abdominals
Detail: Traps, forearms, calves, biceps

[gaspers04]

I suppose that Im the MAB Back outcast.

[jslep]

Originally Posted by 5kgLifter

Primary: the body


It works as a unit, stop messing with it.

Originally Posted by gaspers04

I understand the division. I look at my training as such, primary (main) and secondary (accessory) lifts, not body parts.

I agree with both. The body is a whole and one thing doesn't work well without the other. It performs as a unit and looks good as a unit.

How can one say working their core is not a primary when most of the time heavy squatting fails due to lack of core strength not quad strength. People fold like a sheet of paper at the waist with too much forward lean cuz their abs are weak compared to quads.

Or even from a symetrical point of view for a body builder....a chest and shoulders don't look good without arms or quads don't look good without hammies or glutes.

Now from my own training style i agree with with gasp. I tend to train compounds first then iso's as secondary. But for me its mearly to limit joint pain from overuse.

[BendtheBar]

Train the body, not body parts

That's my philosophy.

[gaspers04]

train the lift fool!!