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I saw the author of this book on one of the morning news show yesterday. It's a very interesting concept/theory/expose or whatever you call it, but I'm becoming skeptical of this sort of thing. For every scientist that publishes their new theories, there are ten others refuting it, and armies of naysayers and/or supporters. What is one expected to believe?
I remember when eating used to be fun. You ate a full meal without being sad that an animal died to feed you. You could have some bread without being worried that it's turning into blobs of fat on your belly. You could have a handful of M&M's without considering what it's doing to your blood sugar. Know what I mean? I think it's all a plot to remove the joy of eating from our lives. We'll soon be sucking nutrients out of a tube. (Not really, just pushing my thoughts to the extreme.)
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Right, it should not be the basis of your diet, but I also understand how much of it the average person eats without realizing it. And there's nothing like warm bread slathered with rich, creamery butter. Ungngggg!
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What is one expected to believe? I certainly am not trying to convince anyone that the over-consumption of grain-based carbs is bad. This is a Paleo forum I posted this in, and was for those of us who have researched and believe in Paleo. In my research the over-consumption of grain-based carbs, and the modern fat fear, has lead our culture down a road that is creating a lot of health issues. Both the books I've listed above do a great job explaining how the modern diet is impacting health. Regarding wheat...most of the wheat studies I have seen that trumpet the health benefits of whole wheat have compared whole wheat to processed flour, and not to a diet devoid of processed flour. It goes without saying that obviously wheat is healthier than processed flour, but is it healthier than no flour? That's the question each of us has to ask and live with.
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I love food, carbs the lot...but, I did read something that the Paleo-eaters (?) might find of interest.
I cannot locate the link, or exact info at present because it's on another comp but, anyway, the gist of it was/is that carbohydrates cause the proliferation of bad bacteria within the gut whereas proteins do not do so; that's not to say that the article (that I'm referring to) suggests no carbs, more a reduction, I reckon. When I get the link, I'll post a copy of the actual wording, but bascially, the above sums it up; it's always nice to be able to make decisions based on knowledge, even if that knowledge alters due to more research and even if we fly in the face of it...because we're spudaholics, like myself. Carbs, however, in most studies also seem to be based around the refined carbs and the excess of cakes and such and the writers erroneously expect people to automatically understand that point whereas we don't since we see carbs as carbs, IMO.
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I'll check around for those books Steve, thanks for the links.
I wasn't feeling pressured one way or the other. I was merely expressing my frustration with the landscape of conflicting viewpoints.
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I totally understand this point T. Far too many of todays scientest are guilty of bad science. They distort their findings to fit their hypothesis, or flat out ignore evidence that proves them wrong. Thats not science.
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Here's the thing...we all agree on most of the same issues:
1) White flour and sugar are evil. 2) High fructose corn syrup is bad for us. 3) Heavily processed foods are not optimal. 4) Fat is not evil and does not make you fat. The work of Weston Price revealed that as a culture moves away from natural food sources, that are often high in fat, and also include things like organ meat, and move towards a processed diet that health deteriorates noticeably. Far too often Paleo is generically labeled "low carb" or "anti-this or that" when it's far more complex than that. We are eating fake butter instead of real butter, and this is considered healthy. We eat low-fat processed foods that contain added corn syrup for flavor, and low-sugar processed foods that contain corn oil for flavor. We eat veggies out of a can. These issues to be are why I beat the drum for a more natural diet. If someone wants to eat a few natural carb sources then have at it. It's much better than processed carb crap. But also take time to study the possible health risks associated with a carb heavy diet. Notice I said "heavy" which relates to the fat fear culture we currently live in. We live in a world that believes fat makes you fat, and that eating good cholesterol kills you. Many of our beliefs are nonsense. Very few foods that most people eat are natural. This tendency is what I am moving my family away from.
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Anyway just saying thank you for posting all the info in this section. Its very helpful and wanted you to know that its appreciated.
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