What we DO know about weight training

[MattB]

Creatine will help hold water intracellular or within the muscle which is what we would want to help deliver nutrients etc. I used creatine up to and including some the day of my show. I was holding no water whatso ever. Plenty of other natural bodybuilders do this as well. I stopped all supplements for about a week or two after my show and didnt lose any weight from not using creatine anymore. Was you diet changed,fluids reduced,weigh at a different time? Their are so many different things that can cause a change in weight.

[AthleteCreator]

For the most part all things remained consistent except my usage of creatine.

And like I said, it has happened like clockwork everytime.

That being said, I've heard of BB's taking it right up to the show too. Hmmmm.....now I'm confused.

[bwys61]

I agree. I believe some people hold more water than others

Originally Posted by AthleteCreator

I would like to see some supporting evidence on this one.

I've used several different creatine brands/variations over the years and every single time with every single brand, I have retained 5lb. of water weight.

How do I judge this? Well, as soon as I'm done with a loading phase, I'm magically 5lb. heavier. When I decide to cycle off for a little bit, I magically lose 5lb.

[BendtheBar]

It is possible that a spiked creatine intake causes the body to retain water to process it. This retained water might not be in the muscle tissue, and could be separate from water retained in the muscle from creatine (the desired effect).

Just thinking out loud...any thoughts?

[MattB]

AthleteCreator- Honestly bro 5lbs is nothing. In my post I said a "ton". My quote was directed towards people that use creatine as an excuse to get sloppy with the diet, put on fat, and then think it will magically disappear when they stop taking it. But as said I lost nothing or very little when I have stopped using it for brief periods as well as people I have helped.

Muscleandbrawn-From everything my professors have told me your body can only hold so much. I know 3-5g is what is reccommeded. I would think if it was not retained in the muscle your body would try and flush it out since you wouldnt be using it. I'm also not aware of how much water creatine would actually pull into the muscle? I know carbohydrates is 2.7g of water with every gram of carb. Now if we are talking that high of a ratio then I could definetly see a gain/loss from consumption. Just my thought on it.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by MattB

Muscleandbrawn-From everything my professors have told me your body can only hold so much. I know 3-5g is what is reccommeded. I would think if it was not retained in the muscle your body would try and flush it out since you wouldnt be using it. I'm also not aware of how much water creatine would actually pull into the muscle? I know carbohydrates is 2.7g of water with every gram of carb. Now if we are talking that high of a ratio then I could definetly see a gain/loss from consumption. Just my thought on it.

What I'm talking about is the body reacting to a change in diet and bringing in water to handle the extra digestive load. Like when you have a brutal diet diet, and your body holds water to handle to processing, and the next few days you're back on the wagon and flushing out a ton of water.

[Fcat611]

Im still not sure I need to squat. i mean come on so many pros do heavy leg presses and front squats like Ronnie Coleman and lunges and leg extensions and all that that I think your legs can get massive from doing all that. Its not that I dont want to squat its just that why do it uif you can lay on your back and work your quads more does that make sence?

[glwanabe]

[QUOTE=Fcat611
Im still not sure I need to squat.

You do, just trust me on this.


i mean come on so many pros do heavy leg presses and front squats like Ronnie Coleman and lunges and leg extensions and all that that I think your legs can get massive from doing all that.

I'm going to just ignore that you even wrote this. Screw Ronie Coleman! Dudes on so much gear, that what he does has no meaning to what you should be doing.


Its not that I dont want to squat.

Then just squat!

its just that why do it uif you can lay on your back and work your quads more does that make sence?

I can think of a few other jobs, where all do is lay on your back.


Squats, they do a body good!

I'm outa here to workout!! YEA!!!

[thumpinos]

Originally Posted by Fcat611

Im still not sure I need to squat. i mean come on so many pros do heavy leg presses and front squats like Ronnie Coleman and lunges and leg extensions and all that that I think your legs can get massive from doing all that. Its not that I dont want to squat its just that why do it uif you can lay on your back and work your quads more does that make sence?

Yo home slice. Coleman's on so much shit that you could eat his shit and grow.

Just f**king squat. Unless you're rolling around in a wheel chair, get your back under the bar.

[bwys61]

you said it. Front Squats.. Coleman squats. leg extensions are terrible for you

Originally Posted by Fcat611

Im still not sure I need to squat. i mean come on so many pros do heavy leg presses and front squats like Ronnie Coleman and lunges and leg extensions and all that that I think your legs can get massive from doing all that. Its not that I dont want to squat its just that why do it uif you can lay on your back and work your quads more does that make sence?