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[5kgLifter]

The average man has become, sadly, a whiny pussy, and no where is this more evident than in the mainstream fitness scene.

Today every gym rat has an excuse for not busting his or her ass.

Haven't read the whole article but in defence of some that "don't bust their ass" fitness centres are partly to blame. Go into most fitness centres and they're full of machines and very few barbell; you can't drop the weights because the staff don't like it; you can't use chalk because, once again, they don't like it.

The places really aren't designed for busting ass, they're there for the average person that just wants a place to workout; they're certainly not designed for Olympic lifter wannabe's or strongman lifter wannabe's and so forth...or at least, fitness centres are not, the odd gym here and there may well be but even the gyms clamp down on chalk and such.

Places for people to workout are great, and each person has their own agenda, as already stated, but try finding places for those that really want to let the metal fly and it gets difficult...they may want to bust their ass in the gym but aren't permitted to do so...frankly, I reckon, if the writer took the time to think about what he wrote (even about that small point), he'd realise that a lot of people that bust their asses, do so at home that's one reason they're not really seen so much in the gyms.

[YoRR]

Originally Posted by BendtheBar

If we want to talk about being mean-spirited, how about the hefty portion of ripped individuals in the fitness community that devalue anyone they consider to be overweight...

I see this crap on Facebook day in and day out. These people aren't laughing or jabbing in a good-spirited way, they are acting like insecure little twits, putting down anyone who isn't up to their standards.

I can't put up a picture of a powerlifter who's not ripped on MAB's Facebook page without 50 hater comments, calling him everything from fat ass to whatever. It's embarrassing. I put up a video of Mark Bell once and good Lord, you would have thought I posted a picture of the world's fattest man.

This type of attitude is pathetic.

people are ignorant nowadays.

[Rich Knapp]

I obversely offended you all some how.

I'm sorry.

I will just stick to my logs posts.

[Off Road]

Just because somebody posts an oposing viewpoint doesn't mean they are upset. We all see things a little differently.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by Rich Knapp

I obversely offended you all some how.

I'm sorry.

I will just stick to my logs posts.

Offended me? Not in the least. I am the one that posts most of the fail pics, so since the point was brought up I added my slant/opinion.

Furthermore, this isn't my forum. Withholding posts from other members because of some perceived disagreement between you and myself is the last thing I want to happen.

People want and need your help. If you have an issue with me, I hope you won't penalize everyone else. I feel like others have just been punished because I have an opinion.

[kitarpyar]

Originally Posted by Off Road

I read that article a few days ago and almost posted it here, but for different reasons. He starts off with the chest pounding about the overhead press being so "Manly", but then quickly starts to recommend a whole bunch of kettlebell exercises. Nothing wrong with kettlebell exercises, but c'mon, stick with the original theme buddy. I guess "Man up and press" doesn't fill the pages so...

I agree. When he says "man up and press", I thought he was going to address folks who dont use the OHP (or aren't moving heavy weights for this lift). This would constitute the majority of the people in the gym (and not elite lifters). I would think, the best way to improve the press for them would be just to ... do the overhead press rather than do a bunch of kettleball stuff.

May be I am just ignorant, but I think I will stick to the simple clean and press in order to improve my clean and press.

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Also agree with OR, Ltl and BTB on the disses. In most cases, a lot of lifters looking for an easy way out (and believing that this exists) have simply been misled by the ads or just have different goals. The same people, more likely than not bust the a$$es in their day jobs to earn money and put the food on the table for their family. Fails in the gym, lifting big weights or looking good dont reflect the worth of a person. But yeah, if they tickle a funny bone, I will laugh and share it.

That said, lets recognize the tone of the article is what it is in order to grab the reader's attention. I doubt if the author would be immature to judge a person based on his gym routine.

[BendtheBar]

Originally Posted by kitarpyar

May be I am just ignorant, but I think I will stick to the simple clean and press in order to improve my clean and press.

I'm with you here Kit.

I like a lot of the articles on T-Nation, but lately a good portion of them are spent pushing/trumpeting/explaining obscure exercises to strengthen weaknesses. I am not sold on them being needed for a good portion of the readership. I am a minimalist, what can I say.

I reserve the right to be wrong or change my opinion.

[Off Road]

Everything should be preceded by a statement of goals. If the person's goal is to look good and be lean and healthy, then they can pretty much get away with lifting however they want (within reason). If the person's goals is to be BIG and strong, then shut up and press (and squat)!

[LtL]

Rich this is healthy discussion and debate. No one is getting offended here.

LtL

[Fazc]

I didn't object to the message, people can train however the hell they want to train. Gym Rats can train as hard or as soft as they want, I honestly could not care less. They pay their fees so they can do what they like.

What I did object to was the writing style. That style of writing makes me want to jab a stick in my eyes. I can't believe anyone is actually taken in by such a horribly blatant attempt at trying to gain readers. It's Matt Furey but a hundred times worse. Appealing to 'real americans' from a type long ago... give me a ****ing break already. It's a blatant and transparent attempt to gain readers, the only difference here is that he's using something which people actually feel strongly about... their patriotism. I can guarantee you he doesn't give a flying **** about the average american and he's just using this to gain readers. That's why I objected and so should you.

If someone wanted to introduce an article on Overhead Pressing by getting me to feel patriotic about Britain I would be offended. Britain is far more than a cheap ploy to be used to gain readers for some shitty T-Nation article.

People should stop treating the patriotism of their country like some cheap whore who can be rented out to any slickster with something to sell.