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MikeC
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There are parts that I think are awesome, others I don't agree with, but I like the overall message.
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There is a lot of discontentment across the pond as well, with letters like these going around. Makes me wonder though, is it the situation that is getting so dire, or are we as people just more prone to complaining about it.
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Little bit of both. Everything is becoming more moronic by the second...
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When Rick Santorium can say the 9th Circuit Court overreached by calling a voter-referendum law unconstitutional and that the Supreme Court is taking religion out of our laws, I just shiver. The First Amendment does that (separates church and state) and the federal courts are supposed to strike down laws that violate the Constitution. I learned this in 9th grade. The dangers of letting the rights of any group be controlled by public opinion are enormous and this can never be a good thing. We'd still be segregated and women wouldn't be voting and working if those who came before us had let popular sentiment and votes occur on the 14th and 19th Amendments or the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Our lawmakers are supposed to see the bigger societal picture. Lots of things we once thought verboten we now look back on as silly and archaic. No, you can't put a nativity scene in a public park because not all citizens are Christian. Again, separation of church and state. Put a nativity scene on your front lawn if you want to see one. This simple religious freedom didn't always exist for our forefathers. The fact that you can put whatever scene on your lawn (including no scene) is a big deal and lost on many. The First Amendment protects free speech and there are limits to this protection. Few people understand where those lines are. Burning a flag as a sign of protest is clearly protected speech. Jefferson must be rolling over in his grave to see how complacent and ignorant of the law the majority of our country is at present. True citizenship isn't blinding following any ideology or getting riled up when your "representatives" tell you something is wrong (because, hey, they might be lying to you)--no, true citizenship involves understanding how our country should work and function and striving to make sure that our government upholds those basic functions as established by the Constitution.
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We have a right to our own culture and a local community should have a right to express that culture. Placing a nativity scene at a park isn't forcing a religion upon people. There is no gun to anyone's head nor proselytizing. As a cultural Christian I welcome all peoples to celebrate their culture at local parks. I would rather have these positive cultural interactions rather than more hate and restrictions. I understand completely that a good portion of religious expression is cultural and not merely religious. |
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I agree with the spirit of what you are saying. However, the Constitution is pretty clear and separation of church and state exists at the federal level and is not something in which local jurisdictions can either opt into or out of.
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What I think is funny is:
The non believers think its against there rights to have religious things in a public. Its forcing them to look at something agenst there rights and belief's. BUT its ok to force believers to have to hide there belief's and do it behind closed doors. Plus its ok for the non believers to take the Christmas bonuses and paid time off when Christmas is the celebration of a persons birth that they don't believe in. What is that???????
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