Anyone else try fasted training?

[bruteforce]

Fasted training screws around with my blood sugar, but I have metabolic issues as a former diabetic that aren't completely gone. However, keep in mind that if your liver likes to spew glucose, its better to not stay in a fasted state.

[SeventySeven]

i eat 4-5 meals a day. I like having fuel before lifting so i have 2 meals before, and 2-3 meals after to recover. my prefrence.

[5kgLifter]

Training fasted to me means having nothing apart from water, but I've seen guys who say they train fasted but then in later posts state that they use pre-workout supps and a whole host of other things; so, when you say that you train in a fasted state, exactly what does it mean, for you?

[Disciple X]

I've done IF on and off for the past year and a half. Its my favorite way to eat. I basically eat once a day most of the time. So in reality i do a 23.5 hour fast daily. Works great for me. Sometimes i eat some greek yogurt or an apple or something during the day. Somedays like today, i got hungry and ravaged a little taco bell . But in all reality thats because i didnt eat enough last night. Weekends get me off schedule most of the time...

I feel terrible if i eat too close to my workouts now...

[Traphouse86]

Anything under 1500 cals at least 2 hours before a workout is training in a fasted state for me

[IronManlet]

Originally Posted by Fazc

No. Intermittent fasting can be any number of fasting and feeding protocols. What you are describing has been popularised by Leangains, where he recommends 16/8. The 24 hour fasts are usually split up by days rather than hours and is more common to the Eat Stop Eat IF protocol.

I also stated the eating window/2 hours a day is what I typically use.

Of course. I don't know if I'd be able to do that and still get in all my calories.

I hear Serge Nubret used to eat just one meal of ~4lbs of meat on top of rice and beans every day.

Originally Posted by Tannhauser

Wow, I'm very interested in this stuff. Scarfing down anything prior to training is second nature to me, so I'm fascinated by the idea that really strong guys use train in a fasted state. The few times I've tried, I haven't felt good.

There was a 'Horizon' programme ( BBC's flagship science programme) last week -looking at the research into fasting, health, ageing, body composition etc.

The first couple times have felt a bit odd to me too, but I adjusted pretty quickly. I'd like to look into that program.

Originally Posted by Off Road

I have always been a big believer that you should have a nutritious breakfast but I tried this today. I had a protein shake mixed with milk for breakfast. Then an hour later I did my workout. I was very suprised that I saw no lack of energy and had a very good workout. I had a full breakfast after my workout and I feel great. Just goes to show, you never know until you try.

Yep.

Originally Posted by bruteforce

Fasted training screws around with my blood sugar, but I have metabolic issues as a former diabetic that aren't completely gone. However, keep in mind that if your liver likes to spew glucose, its better to not stay in a fasted state.

Pre-existing conditions can affect it, I'm sure. I tend towards a high fat/protein and low carb diet though, so I use the fat for fuel instead of all glucose.

Originally Posted by 5kgLifter

Training fasted to me means having nothing apart from water, but I've seen guys who say they train fasted but then in later posts state that they use pre-workout supps and a whole host of other things; so, when you say that you train in a fasted state, exactly what does it mean, for you?

I never use any supplements (unless you count a vitamin), so fasted training for me is coffee, tea, or water and nothing else before you train.

[d3stroy]

Originally Posted by Tannhauser

Wow, I'm very interested in this stuff. Scarfing down anything prior to training is second nature to me, so I'm fascinated by the idea that really strong guys use train in a fasted state. The few times I've tried, I haven't felt good.

There was a 'Horizon' programme ( BBC's flagship science programme) last week -looking at the research into fasting, health, ageing, body composition etc.

I too have tried it and it did not work for me. I would rather have something to eat in my body. All I coudl think of was food while I was working out and was never so glad to have been done with a workout to pig out.

[IronManlet]

Originally Posted by Disciple X

I've done IF on and off for the past year and a half. Its my favorite way to eat. I basically eat once a day most of the time. So in reality i do a 23.5 hour fast daily. Works great for me. Sometimes i eat some greek yogurt or an apple or something during the day. Somedays like today, i got hungry and ravaged a little taco bell . But in all reality thats because i didnt eat enough last night. Weekends get me off schedule most of the time...

I feel terrible if i eat too close to my workouts now...

So more of a Warrior Diet then, eh? Nice.

This blog was the clincher to get me started on IF: Live Like a Spartan : Intermittent Fasting | BOLD & DETERMINED

[Traphouse86]

Originally Posted by Traphouse86

Anything under 1500 cals at least 2 hours before a workout is training in a fasted state for me

Actually guys I'm hypoglycemic so I have to eat every 2-3 hours so don't really have a choice but to eat before a workout.

[bruteforce]

Originally Posted by Traphouse86

Actually guys I'm hypoglycemic so I have to eat every 2-3 hours so don't really have a choice but to eat before a workout.

I had no idea. My liver and I don't get along, so if I train fasted, it kicks out glucose until my blood sugar hits over 150. Bodies are weird.